[pskmail] Re: Guidance for beginner
- From: Bernard Dekok <kc9sgv@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:56:18 -0600
Hi Per,
I see what you mean.
I downloaded client version 1.5.5 on Windows.
However, it then just opens directly on my Windows desktop, with no further
hint of a Manual attached to the download.
So I think most users will not even be aware of the new Manual.
Making a hotlink tab under "Help", might be the most intuitive way to go
for most Windows users of the client.
FWIW,
KC9SGV
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Pär Crusefalk <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Bernard,
>
> There should be a link to the manual in the program group where jpskmail
> is installed, just next to the application itself. For now I figured that
> should cover it pretty good. That is if its working for you? Its working in
> linux, have not tried it in windows in a while so pse let me know if it
> does not work.
>
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo
>
>
> Bernard Dekok skrev 2012-02-09 13:25:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I like the latest manual and I have put a link to it on the Wiki.
> The problem is that there are quite a few old manuals floating about out
> there. These have older and maybe obsolete information.
> One of them really led me astray after a Google Search.
> It might behove the effort here to not support older versions of PSKMail,
> but just to concentrate on the latest version.
> I order to do this, the manual must be updated at every new version fix.
> This will keep all users and sysops on the "same page", so to speak.
>
> Maybe the easiest would be to expand the "Help" File in the PSKMail UI to
> have a searcheable menu, like what some other Windows software have.
> Alternatively, just provide a hotlink in there to the latest Manual....
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Please keep up the good work.
>
> KC9SGV
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Rein Couperus <rein@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> When you have information in different placees it means you have to
>> maintain it
>> in different places, which always leads to more work.
>>
>> The problem with a quick start is that people don't read the proper
>> manual anymore :-)
>>
>> In my opinion the FAQ on the wiki should be the place to put information
>> which is not
>> in the manual. The FAQ could also have a pointer to the quick start
>> document contained
>> in the manual, and we could give the quick start its own page on the wiki.
>> That way we all know where the info is and we can point new users there...
>> And we also know where to change it when it becomes out of date.
>>
>> Rein EA/PA0R/M
>>
>> (trying to implement some protocol enhancements at the moment)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, information is always good but we have to have some kind of plan to
>> not let the info get old and misleading. For a while I have intended to
>> write a "fast start" chapter in the manual, this kind of thing could be in
>> there. Perhaps an appendix with various hands on examples with common
>> equipment could be useful?
>> I have to get going on the manual anyway as I have rewritten the email
>> interface and I need to document that, it's pretty straight forward so most
>> will not need the manual there but I should document it anyway.
>>
>> 73, Per
>>
>>
>> John Douyere skrev 2012-02-09 04:06:
>>
>> Rein, Per,
>>
>> How do you see this (Gil's proposal)? I can make a WIKI page that you
>> link to. I am a bit concerned at the duplication of information in the wiki
>> and/or manual.
>>
>> 73, John
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Gilbert Franke <g.a.franke@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> John, this is very helpful information. Perhaps it could be incorporated
>>> in the manual? or better yet, provided as a separate download on
>>> pskmail.org?
>>>
>>> Jeff, I could be available this evening, if you want to sked a real time
>>> observation. Let me know via this reflector or my own email <
>>> wb5rfq@xxxxxxxx>.
>>>
>>> 73, Gil WB5RFQ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:40 AM, John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> No problems. Your setup looks correct. I would then look at the
>>>> servers, time (if they are scanning) and the mode.
>>>>
>>>> 1. On http://hermes.esrac.ele.tue.nl/maps/pskmailers.php you have
>>>> the currently active (meaning in the last hour) servers as a list and as
>>>> blue markers on the Google map.
>>>>
>>>> Right now I can see AB9FT (I suspect too close for 30M), KB2PNM (good
>>>> distance, scanning) and WB5RFQ-5 (good distance too, not scanning).
>>>>
>>>> 2. I use http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers to tell me which
>>>> servers are on which frequency. WB5RFQ-5 is fixed on 10148 so your ping
>>>> could reach him and KB2PNM is scanning with minutes 0 and 1 on 10148 (see
>>>> table at the bottom of the web page).
>>>>
>>>> Note on scanning servers: Pskmail has a 5 minutes scanning cycle with
>>>> minutes numbered 0 to 4. So if you are targeting 10148 then KB2PNM will
>>>> listen on this frequency at 0 and 1 then 5 and 6 then 10 and 11 then 15 and
>>>> 16 (and so on) minutes past the hour.
>>>>
>>>> I normally wait an extra 10 seconds to make sure the server has changed
>>>> frequency.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Mode: the most versatile mode I find is THOR22 as it is pretty
>>>> sensitive and robust, not too slow and tolerates a fair amount of frequency
>>>> mis-alignment. Select that mode and ensure that the TXID box is lit on
>>>> Fldigi, then do a ping (at the right time if you want the scanning
>>>> server(s) to listen too).
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> If that fails, then I would try to setup a sked with one of the
>>>> server's operators on this list so that he can monitor the reception side
>>>> and exchange information in real time (with say telephone or Skype or other
>>>> messaging system).
>>>>
>>>> In my experience, once that is in place it should be easier sailing
>>>> from there on.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> 73, John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Jeff McKune <research@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the kind, thoughtful, and quick reply. Those are really
>>>>> good suggestions. Let me respond to each one.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.) That helps clarify the frequency settings. I am trying to
>>>>> connect to KD4QCL at 10148.00. Both settings in the Misc section of
>>>>> Fldigi
>>>>> are set to a carrier of 1000, and I have set my radio to 10147.00.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.) This was an excellent tip, and I thought you had found the answer
>>>>> as I am using an FT-897D. However menu item 39 Digital Shift is set to 0
>>>>> Hz.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.) I am making sure that if I change any preferences or
>>>>> configuration settings in either program that I save and quit both
>>>>> programs, start Fldigi, and then start jpskMail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still get no response when I attempt a ping. I sometimes see what
>>>>> appear to be server signals or maybe other pskMail client signals up and
>>>>> down the waterfall, but they never show up under my cursor so that they
>>>>> can
>>>>> be decoded.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it helps, here is what I am using:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yaesu FT-897D
>>>>> LDG AT-897 Plus tuner
>>>>> G5RV-Jr antenna
>>>>> SignaLink USB
>>>>> HP Pavilion dm4 laptop running Win7 64-bit
>>>>> Fldigi 3.21.38
>>>>> jpskMail 1.5
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, many thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> KD0JLM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gilbert A Franke
>>> 361 442
>>> 6008<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#13561bcac6ca4fc8_>(cell)
>>> 130 N Harris
>>> Bellville TX 77418
>>>
>>
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