Hello all! I need a little advice from more experienced pskmailers. Last night I send some aprs beacons with albrecht2990 handheld/AndPskmail to my own base with thor22. Distance was about 20km. Beacons were received mostly ok, about 80% right. In that distance/path voice communication is easy, it is in about the border of practical fm work, still usable (I have tried that place before) and phone ssb is easy and clear. So queston is: what range should I expect from digimodes like thor22?. Should thor22 have "longer" or "shorter" maximum distance on line-of-sight communicatons as phone ssb? I know there can not be accurate answer for this question. What I am looking for is for example experiences like " I was able to work ssb when psk500 didnt get throw...but thor22 did..." or something like that. If we consider pskmail digimodes starting from most robust (thor8?) to less robust (psk500?) so where we should consider limit for phone ssb usually to be? Is it somewhere on thor-modes or somewhere on psk-modes or how? Without arq, is this thor22-80% right bad or good result on path where phone ssb is mostly easy? Tarmo