On 28 June 2011 05:42, Chris Neilson <crusty.chris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Not saying I dont agree with you re the bonus stacking, but my original > point was that this was a forth option that had not been considered in > Tim's list. It all depends on whether or not its an argument that has > been "seriously proposed". The point was that nearly everyone ASSUMED > the bonus was cumulative - the rules dont specifically state that it is. > I think the fact that "nearly everyone" reads the rules a certain way is in fact a very good argument for Project Aon to interpret them that way. :-) Consensus is good. So is not surprising the readers and provoking them to email us with questions or complaints! > Compare this to the Silver Bow of Duadon. It is stated to "add 3 points > to your TOTAL whenever you are using a Bow" (06tkot sect252) - "total" > implies cumulative bonus, although the Mentora Improved Discipline says > "add 2 to the NUMBER PICKED" (the "Bows and Arrows" Equipment section > says something similar ie "add 3 to any number that you choose") - which > definitely implies not cumulative. > I think you're reading too much intent into Dever's wording. I don't think he was being deliberate in choosing "to your total" vs. "to the number picked". On 28 June 2011 09:11, Benjamin I Krefetz <krefetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Maybe someone who feels like grepping the xml files can check to confirm, > but I believe the only time LW throws a Dagger in the Magnakai series is > when he throws the Dagger of Vashna at Zakhan Kimah, and in that case the > reader is specifically instructed to add 3. > I come up with just two (using a hastily composed grep -i "random.*weaponmastery.*dagger"), both in 09tcof. There's the one against Kimah, of course (section 239<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/09tcof/sect239.htm>), but also section 215<http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/09tcof/sect215.htm>where you throw a dagger at a guard to shut him up. There, you get a +4 bonus. Kind of makes you wonder what the Mentora bonus (available no sooner than 10tdot) is actually *for*, especially if it doesn't stack with WM-with-Bow... (Do note that this is only finding cases where you get a bonus to a random pick for having [Grand] Weaponmastery. Searching for every instance of random picks involving daggers is significantly harder...) -- Tim Pederick