Hi Rick, here she blows. The attachment is called Tutorials.zip. I would help more but don't have Visual Studiio on my machine right now. I will be loading up VS Pro 2008 in about a week. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: Ricks Place To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: windows forms and panel Hi Rick. That was a series of short tutorials I wrote for Marv. I have them and will send them to you as an attachment in the next post under this same subject. The control you are thinking about is the Asp.net TableLayoutPanel if I remember. The next post will be in a couple of minuts. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: rick watson To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: windows forms and panel Good morning listers, A while back on this list someone mentioned using the panel control for controls placement on windows forms. I think there was even a tutorial on how all of this worked. Could someone refresh my memory on this one? Thanks Rick