Re: web accessibility testing

inthane, thanks much.
Robbie



----- Original Message ----- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: web accessibility testing


Robbie, some of what Jim was talking about was notations on the page and forms itself, where there are items to fill out, and they say "the items in red are required fields" that's a non accessibility statement, where if it says "the items marked with a star are required fields" and the stars do indeed show up on the correct items to be filled out, that's accessible, sites with graphical links that read like this "link graphic 21279-1.jpg, link graphic 21279-2.jpg" and the like qualify as non accessible while "link graphic21232home.jpg and link graphic21232cont.jpg" can be considered accessible since they contain a clue, or at least a partial clue as to what they are in the graphic name.

you can check the color and type of font, if you do not have them hard set in your browser by highlighting a word and hitting insert and F together.

other things are items such as java scripts that cause motion or other nice looking visual effects that cause a screen reader to have a problem reading the page, loud music that can not be turned off by hitting escape, java forms used to display items when you hit a link on the page, such as tiger directs hints links that bring up a java run display page, which jaws, and I think other screen readers as well, cannot read, etc.

you can also feed the URL to the page to sights like the "bobby" accessibility page and see what there report says, though take that one with a grain of salt, they tend to go a bit overboard on the standards, and most folks can't make all the changes they require to be "compliant". another thing to watch for is a capsha security setup with no audio rendering of the capsha graphic so we can hear what sighted's are seeing.

there are a lot of criteria, but I think that gives you the basics.

here are links to some references for "accessibility" on the web:
the w3c consortium, the site with the standards lists:
site: www.w3c.org
guidelines 1.1: http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/
Guidelines 2.0 (working draft): http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/

a site for section 508 referencing:
www.section508.gov)Section 508 The Road to Accessibility
http://www.section508.gov/

that should get you going,
inthane


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Miller" <Robbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: web accessibility testing



I'm doing the accessibility testing myself.
robbie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: web accessibility testing


Do you have to do the accessibility testing yourself, or are you also looking for corporate solutions as well?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Miller" <Robbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: web accessibility testing


Hello James,
I should have mentioned that I'm totally blind. I have no way I can think of to check web pages to seeif they:

1 remain independant of color,
and 2. Stay Independent of Style Sheets.
I'm looking for tools and resources to do this accessibility testing, any help is very much appreciated.
Thanks again.

Robbie
robbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: web accessibility testing


Hi Robby,
For color independence, you will get a clue when you see things like
"required fields in read," "emphasis in yellow," or some other phrasing like that. For style sheets, the site needs to be 508 compliant when style sheets are off. The procedure to disable style sheets is different for each browser you use. Final advice, make sure you understand what problems are truly 508, which ones are usability, and which ones are your possible lack
of knowledge on how to use a screen reader, assuming you use one.

Thanks.

Jim

James D Homme,
Usability Engineering
Highmark Inc.
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
412-544-1810

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Hello Listers,
I've been asked to do an accessibility - section 508 evaluation of a web
site.  My question is, how can I test a page to see if it:
1.) "Remain Independent of Color" and 2.) "Stay Independent of Style
Sheets"?

Are there any tools I can use to do this?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Also, if there are any resources on web accessibility testing, please let
me
know.

Thank you.
Robbie
robbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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