Random. I couldn't get to any of the menus or anything even with the route jaws to pc cursor. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: 29 October 2010 01:18 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Ok I just installed and created my first C# program in VS2010. Note this is not my first C# program for those who don't know me but at any rate. The menus work fine for me Rick so I would need to know where you are. I am using Jaws 11 though and I have no scripts loaded It might be that the scripts are broken so badly that they are causing problems. I will also point out That the intelesense seems to work out of the box with no scripts. It isn't perfect I can see that it could be made to be much more chatty but I was able to type application. And then a menu of choices popped up. I then arrowed to something hit tab and there it was. Now I didn't test parameters I am betting those won't work but the point is we might want to take the scripts and start over. I don't mean write them all over because I bet the forms stuff works fine but it might be a good idea to see what we can do from ground up on the code editor. I just ran around in the code editor and it seems to work. Of course it doesn't have indentation announcement and stuff because there are no scripts. I am playing with this while I write this so I am not sure the problem. Have you tried it with Jaws 11? I can't try it with 12 till I get my copy and I am not going to install the demo. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:20 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Good afternoon, I have it on windows classic as the theme. How do I set the windows style? or does the classic setting take care of style as well. thanks rick -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:30 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Yes but if you don't have it on windows classic they won't read in vs does yalt-f read if not it's your window style. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:11 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project It is jaws 12 with windows 7 64-bit. menus read fine in other apps but not in vs2010. rick -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:35 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project What jaws are you using what windows are you using. Is it 64 bit or not etc. . Make sure you have windows classic display schema Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:39 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Good morning listers, I have downloaded the 2008 scripts and have installed them into my system so that they activate whenever vs2010 is launched. just a quick question, what causes the menus to not be read in jaws? thanks rick -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:29 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Well I want to point out it was us on this list that made those current scripts. All you have to do is fix them. Unfortunately like some of the other original script makers I just don't have the time to do it right now it's time for others who need it to step up. Here is some hints. First learn to use the home row now known as the script utility. The new key press for this is Microsoft-insert-key pad minus, If you haven't used it you need to learn it if you're going to play with the scripts. Second while I didn't use it some of the script writers find windig by Jamal a very good program to find out what is on the screen., I know it's on Jamal's site I just don't know the address so maybe he will post it. Back up you current scripts or just keep an install of the current 2005 scripts. That way when you screw them up so bad you can just reinstall. The big thing is though just dive in. Get the 2005 scripts compile them and make sure they are loading by doing insert q in visual studio 2010. If they are loading then do insert - f2 and bring up the script editor and read through the current scripts. After that you should have an idea of what to change to make the current one work. I would bet the intelesense code is what is causing the problem in the code editor in 2005 I had to do a lot of strange window crap to make it work. Then I think Jamal did some changes to it to. I am betting some of the new intelesense stuff is much easier to script for but the old code is probably making a mess out of it. So anyway I guess what I am saying is the only way these scripts are going to get modified if someone here has the time to do it. I have 2010 installed but I am working on a project outside of VS right now and I can't promise I will be back into it till after next summer and who the heck knows what Microsoft will do between now and then. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:54 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project Good morning listers, Just to add to this discussion, I have been trying to get this to work and we will also need to focus on menus as well as designers. Not just the code editor. Rick -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:46 AM To: Justin Daubenmire; programmingblind; Program-l Subject: Re: vs 2010 jaws project Hi Justin, I am hereby copying the ProgrammingBlind and Program-L lists in the hope that others interested in the project will get in touch with you. Jamal -- Original Message -- > Hi Jamal, > > For jaws to work with visual studio 2010 an add-in is going to need to be programmed by the community. > > I would be willing to manage this project if we have enough people wanting to help. > > We would need to setup a project on www.codeplex.com and I could do that for us. > > Then participants would need to install TortoiseSVN to perform commits to the repository. > > The plug-in would be an open source effort and I'd prefer to program it in c#.net which is just personal preference though. > > Here are a few links to information that could get us all started. > > Visual Studio 2010 Editor Samples > Several samples showing how to extend the new WPF-based editor in Visual Studio 2010. > http://editorsamples.codeplex.com/ > > How to: Control the Code Editor (Visual C#) > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms228776.aspx > > If anyone is interested please have them contact me directly at jdaubenm@xxxxxxxxxx > > Thanks! > > > Regards, > Justin > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind ECKE RANCH Providing Integrity, Innovation, & Grower Solutions for 3 Generations! 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