RE: visual basic jaws problem


I think they are just going to live on the scripts this community is writing
they would almost have to have a full time coder working on it to actually
keep it up to date and working.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:54 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem

Ken,

You said they don't support it "yet".  Any guesses about how many decades it

will be before they do provide support for VS?

Everett


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: visual basic jaws problem


>
>
> Well while I think them pointing at Microsoft's site is amusing your email
> to them was very confusing.  I am not sure what problem your really 
> having.
> Now if you want help what you're going to have to do is actually attach 
> code
> and a clear description of what your trying to do and send a question to
> this list.  Just saying something like I have two group boxes and radio
> buttons in them doesn't tell us anything.  There are a number of reasons
> they won't work right from the group names being wrong, overlap, bad tab
> settings, strange property settings, and even simple oddities that 
> Microsoft
> throws in just to screw with new coders.
>
>
>
>
>
> We here at the list and the developers at FS can't really help you if we
> don't have examples of what you're doing.
>
>
>
> When Sina and I sent bug reports to FS on jaws 5,6,7,8,9 and I am sure I
> will send one about 10 we would always include code, compiled executable,
> and a very well thought out description of the problem.  That normally not
> only got us a satisfactory answer but most of the time FS actually fixed
> bugs.  I am not saying they got right on it that minute but if  they can
> actually see the problem you have a much better chance of getting it 
> fixed.
>
>
>
> Another thing you need to understand.  FS does not support Visual studio
> fully yet.  The scripts are written by a third party and writing them to
> complain will probably get you sent to some page that does nothing for 
> you.
> Oh wait not probably it did get you sent to a useless page.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:37 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: visual basic jaws problem
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
> <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: Marvin <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>  Hunkin
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:28 AM
>
> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>
>
>
> Tuesday, November 25, 2008
>
> Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  The best
> place for you to find answers on getting Visual Basic .net applications to
> work with accessibility programs like the JAWSR screen reading software
> would be at the following web site.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/enable
>
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue,
> please don't hesitate to contact us.
>
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
> correspondence
> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dennis G. Godin
> Technical Support Specialist
> Freedom Scientific Blind/Low Vision Group
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com
> Phone support: 727 803 8600
>
> Our Mission:
> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products 
> and
> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use 
> to
> change their world.
>
> At 11/25/2008 01:04 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Marvin Hunkin [ mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> ]
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:52 PM
> To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>
>        Hi.
> using jaws 10.0. 512.
> and for my applications, tabbing through the controls, and say for one of 
> my
> examples, have the text boxes tab stop set to false, and then this is the
> problem, jaws cannot read some of the text boxes, as the window is 
> covering
> it, and then also the grafphic , above the main window or in the main
> window.
> and the title, and did maximize it, but it is still not reading fine.
> the only way to get round this, was for one of my examples was to not set
> the tab stop to false on my controls. when using group boxes.
> and this might fix the problem, but still reading using the pc to route 
> jaws
> cursur, still does not read all of the information correctly.
> and also, in the code editor, tried reclassing the windows classes to 
> multi
> line edit, and when i type, i do not hear the word or the . just not even
> blank, and only when i hit the enter key, do i hear what is typed on the
> screen with visual basic express 2005, never had this problem with visual
> basic 2008.
> now i am using visual basic 2005 express with sp1. for windows vista home
> premium.
> can you get your developers to see if they can replicate this problem, or
> maybe do a jaws tandem session, then they can see what i mean, and some of
> my projects are still in 2008 format, and as i uninstalled 2008 and only 
> got
> 2005, long story.
> now, they will have to have both version of vb on their systems.
> cheers Marvin.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: Freedom Scientific Technical <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Support
>
> To: Marvin Hunkin <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:09 AM
>
> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>
>
>
> Monday, November 24, 2008
>
> Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  In order 
> to
> determine the best way to address the problem that you are having when
> reading a Visual Basic .net application with the JAWSR for WindowsR screen
> reading software, we need to know exactly what version of JAWS you are
> using.  We would also need to know if the controls you mentioned are 
> reading
> as you tab through the controls, etc.  Please supply some additional
> information   in these areas.
>
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue,
> please don't hesitate to contact us.
>
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
> correspondence
> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dennis G. Godin
>
> Technical Support Specialist
>
> Freedom Scientific Blind/Low Vision Group
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>
> Phone support: 727 803 8600
>
> Our Mission:
>
> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products 
> and
> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use 
> to
> change their world.
>
> At 11/24/2008 08:19 AM, you wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Marvin Hunkin [ mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx]
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:41 AM
>
> To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
>
> Subject: visual basic jaws problem
>
> Hi.
>
> when i run a vb dot net application and try to route the jaws to pc
>
> cursur,
>
> and try to read the information, the windows is either covered, or not
>
> reading all the information, like text boxes, checkboxes, radio buttons,
>
> etc.
>
> and i have to use the insert b key to hear the information, and the
>
> application i created.
>
> can you fix this problem with jaws?
>
> am using visual basic dot net 2005 express, with the vs scripts,
>
> updated,
>
> windows vista home premium.
>
> cheers Marvin.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dennis G. Godin
>
> Technical Support Specialist
>
> Freedom Scientific
>
> www.freedomscientific.com
>
> Phone Support: 727 803 8600
>
> Our Mission:
>
> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products 
> and
> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use 
> to
> change their world.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dennis G. Godin
> Technical Support Specialist
> Freedom Scientific
>
> www.freedomscientific.com
> Phone Support: 727 803 8600
>
> Our Mission:
> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products 
> and
> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use 
> to
> change their world.
>
> 

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