actually it's rather common for smaller colleges especially, to be one behind, especially if the computer department is still part of the business department, and they have to duke it out to get funds for upgrades, when I took VB, six had been out for over a year, but the college was still teaching VB5.
take care, Mr. pointy ears----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
I don't have any helpful hints to add, but just can't believe his instructorwould require the older version in the first place. Sounds like a major headache to put a student through. Sorry, but no kudos to your instructor... Good luck. --le----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:08 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi Marv: Don't forget to get the necessary info to rebuild the DataBases for any projects that use them if you need to use them. It might just be easier to manually rebuild them in any case. Remember to coordinate all this with your Instructor, if you get really stuck he might be the only person with enough information to pull you through the entire process. Good luck. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressHi. will do that and ask him about that. what to install for 2005, once i google the right order to uninstall and ask my lecturer once i have got vs 2008 uninstalled in the right oreder, then check in control panel, then might do a search on my computer for any vs 2008, and any vs 2005 modules left, then hopefully uninstall them. cheers and thanks for your help.ps: okay, will go and then write down the control names and the values foreach project, then copy and paste the code or save it as text files, in the same folder, so then can go and get them and rebuild, or put them in a special folder. okay, then that will be quicker, well, chapter 1, 2, 3, for the exercises and the case studies, and then examples for chapter 4 to 14, and i think, i will probably have to rebuild the web application as well.and in the class exercises, the lecturer did not cover vwd, not necessary,or not essential for the course. and okay, will then recopy my assignments, tests, practice test and in class exercises, as had converted them to 2008, so can then have the 2005 versions. okay thanks for your help. will keep you posted. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi Marv: I think you will need to remove the 2008 Sql Server modules and the 2008 programming Language modules before trying to install the 2005 versions but I'm not sure.I do not tthink removing the Language Modules will be a problem so long asyou get rid of everything related to them correctly. Getting rid of the 2008 Sql Server DataBase Modules, and any old 2005 Sql Server Modules that might impact your clean download might be a little more tricky though. I think you need to UnInstall them in the proper order or you might end up with some problems. I do not remember the correct order. You can Google on the correct procedure to UnInstall the Language Modules and the Sql Server Modules. Once you get your machine clean, and you will have to check in the Control Panel to make sure all modules are removed against a list of modules to be removed from your research, you can likely copy and paste your vb code into the appropriate text editor if you name the controls the same as the original project. I think you might have to rebuild the controls except the VWD controls which are standard html and MS thingys that might be ok. That's about the best I can figure out. It sounds like something to do carefully and might take some time even if all goes well getting set up. Good luck, it sounds like you have allot of work to do. Keep in touch with your Instructor to keep him informed on your progress sohe can give you more detail advice on getting set up once you are clean ofthe 2008 modules. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:26 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressHi. rick. now, yes, uses the sql server 2008, and i think, sql server 2008 did not like some of the sql databases that i got off the net, for the book, off the cd i was provided, and yep, need to use sql server 2005, and vb.dot net 2005.and got a lot of my in class exercises on cd, so can copy them back over. the main problem, is that i do not have a spare 100 hours to redo all the chapters, and the examples and the case studies and the exericses you werehelping me with, unless, i go in and save the code modules and the documents then i could then rebuild all the examples, and the exericses and the case studies, just rebuild the interfaces.then just copy and paste the code back in, so that would be a quicker wayto go about that. so what would you recommend this course of action?should i go down that route, uninstall vs 2008, and then install the 2005and what do you recommend. if i did it this way, would short cut a lot of time and effort, and quickly able to rebuild the applications for the chapters in the book, the examples, exercises and case studies. okay, if you recommend that route, then suggest that to me. my lecturer is using 2005, and the book is using 2005, the only reason why i got 2008, was that i did not have internet access, and a adaptive tech person, who sold me jaws in tasmania, burned a copy of vs 2008 in the first place, even though i did request 2005. oh well, lessons learned. okay let me know. what i should do and proceed from here onwards. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi Inthane: If that's the case he has a problem. My guess he will have to remove the 2008 modules, and then load up some version of 2005. I remember he also wasmessing with the DataBases so that might be problematic as well dependingonwhich version he ended up using. The last thing I can think of is that heuses Access DataBases instead of the Sql Server DataBases as defined in his Projects and that might cause problems for his Instructor as well if he is not familiar with their setup and use. My guess the only way he is going to get it working is to work directly with his Instructor to match up theversions of everything if he is to just send him a Project to load up andreview per the original Course and Project requirements. I don't think I have any answers except to find out what his Instructor recommends. Sounds like he will have to uninstall everything 2008 including the DataBase systems. Then install everything that came with the original course and ReWrite his applications using the correct languages and DataBases if he wants to be in sync with the rest of the class. Other than that I wouldn't recommend doing all that removing and ReInstallation as it might cause some real headaches if not done in the correct order. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressI think, if I have it straight, that his instructor is using VB 2005, andcan't open the files he is making in 2008, backwards compatibility is alright in general with MS, but the reverse usually doesn't work, and I do not believe MS has made anything akin to the "MSO Viewers" that enablefolks to open and save a newer version of say a word document in an olderformat so someone with the older office versions can use it. regards, the elf----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressMarv: Before you attempt Downloading 2005 over 2008. What was the explicit problem you could not resolve in 2008? Were you having the problem in VWD or in Vb.net Winforms? What statement was giving you the error which your instructor said was due to the language version problem?I really do not think the language version would cause you any problems unless you are copying and pasting code into a config file. So, tell mewhat statement is not working so I can check it out. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressThen he is doing something really weird. The fact is I have moved lots ofprograms over from things I have ben playing with now that I have 2008and nothing has had problems. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress HI. well, the in class exercises and examples, are the lecturers, and had a look on the hard disk and on the cd. well, that is what he says. and think will only work in 2005. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Your instructor is a fool. They should work fine in 2008. There is not that big a language wise in VB .net 2005 and 2008. The errors your having are most likely typing errors. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:21 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi.got a whole heap of examples, for my programming class, exercises,a nddid them in vb dot net 2005. but converted them to all vb dot net 2008, but some of them are not working and got errors. did e-mail my lecturer, and he says, that the book they are using in class is for vb dot net 2005, and i am using 2008. so, where can i download vb dot net 2005 express, and also is there aconversion utility to convert from vb.dot net 2008 to 2005, as a wholeof a lot of exercises i did for the chapter book examples and some of the exercises and case studies, in vb dot net 2008, and do not have time to goand recreate them in vb dot net 2005, if i can get my hands on a copy?have tried searching on google, and went to the msdn site, but tried looking, but cannot find any thing at all. got any ideas? cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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