One thing I'm now doing is keeping all my snippets in test.vb. When a
snippet gets to working as intended, it gets copied into real code in
another file but then it gets commented out inside of test.vb. Then I
put
documentation lines describing what that snippet does above the snippet
in
test.vb and rather than just use (') to start those documentation lines I
use (''). That way I can tell real code from comments and I don't have
to
use that line of stars convention to separate all of it! When I don't
know
how something will work as well as if something will work, I put it in
test.vb and do a compile run sequence on it and find out. If it breaks,
it
didn't harm my real code when that happened.
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:20
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: vb code?
Good points, and it really is about finding where you work best. I do my
best at rapid code generation with a combination of snipets, little
helper
programs I've written, and a growing library of templates or starter code
to
work from. I always make sure I can navigate my language's reference in
an
efficient manner and use code straight out of the reference tweaked to
fit
the program rather than typing it all from scratch again when possible. I
find this puts me in a similar, but not identical, position to someone
working with an IDE who already has a lot of their workspace defined for
them and still gives me the intimate understanding of my code that I
think I
only get in a text edited environment. But whatever environment gets
stuff
done for a particular individual is probably the one they should use. I
just
had to say something after hearing of the IDE being declared as the end
all,
must have programming environment, which I do not feel is the case. I
don't
doubt that it could be the optimal environment for some minds and ways of
working though.
Jared
On 3/26/2009 7:20 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
Actually one thing about the IDE that if you're going to work in
multiple
languages just cannot be done in anything else is the intelesense.
Once you
get used to it there is no going back. It gives you a leg up on
speed when
I first learned c and c++ I had to memorize every little method in
every
class and every function in every library. That or have files and
files of
reference texts that I could search through using grep. When I took
up VB
and C# in Visual Studio I didn't have to know anything about the
language
and I very quickly could write software because the intelesence
pretty much
popped up everything I needed as long as I knew something about
programming
and could type my variable name and put a dot after it. Not to
mention the
fact that if your coding in an interface it creates all the method
stubs for
you which really goes a long way in not letting you make a lot of
beginner
typeos.
So while I started out and still do code with out the IDE it sure is
nice to
relax and let the IDE do a lot of the work when I can.
Ken
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared
Wright
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:48 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: vb code?
Rick is certainly entitled to his thoughts on the issue, but for the
sake of hearing the other side I'll say that I get along just fine
without the IDE. Now I'm sure the situations scale a little higher
than
the ones I'm in at the moment, but certainly I've done work on
fairly
complex, team-based software development projects using the .net
framework. It's all about finding the environment that is
comfortable to
your personal nuances and habits, I think. The IDE may be an option
for
some, but I must disagree with its being a necessity.
Jared
On 3/26/2009 1:57 PM, Ricks Place wrote:
Hi Alex:
Did you set up your IDE for working with a Screen Reader and
make use
of the JAWS Scripts?
If you are going to do any real programming you will need to
work in
an IDE. There is just too much complexity and too many lines
of code
to work in a Text Editor for anything but a small demo
project.
How are you going to handle any Interop or SDK technicals?
What about
DataBase, DataSets and Forms or Pages if you want to work on
the net?
Are you going to wire up all the web.config or app.config
settings by
hand?
If you want to play around a little your plan is fine. If
you are
going to work on any real projects or do any work at an
educational
institution you need to learn how to make the IDE work to
your
satisfaction. That can be done.
Rick USA
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