Re: vb code?

Good points, and it really is about finding where you work best. I do my best at rapid code generation with a combination of snipets, little helper programs I've written, and a growing library of templates or starter code to work from. I always make sure I can navigate my language's reference in an efficient manner and use code straight out of the reference tweaked to fit the program rather than typing it all from scratch again when possible. I find this puts me in a similar, but not identical, position to someone working with an IDE who already has a lot of their workspace defined for them and still gives me the intimate understanding of my code that I think I only get in a text edited environment. But whatever environment gets stuff done for a particular individual is probably the one they should use. I just had to say something after hearing of the IDE being declared as the end all, must have programming environment, which I do not feel is the case. I don't doubt that it could be the optimal environment for some minds and ways of working though. 

Jared

On 3/26/2009 7:20 PM, Ken Perry wrote:

Actually one thing about the IDE that if you're going to work in multiple
languages just cannot be done in anything else is the intelesense.  Once you
get used to it there is no going back.  It gives you a leg up on speed when
I first learned c and c++ I had to memorize every little method in every
class and every function in every library.  That or have files and files of
reference texts that I could search through using grep.  When I took up VB
and C# in Visual Studio I didn't have to know anything about the language
and I very quickly could write software because the intelesence pretty much
popped up everything I needed as long as I knew something about programming
and could type my variable name and put a dot after it.  Not to mention the
fact that if your coding in an interface it creates all the method stubs for
you which really goes a long way in not letting you make a lot of beginner
typeos.

So while I started out and still do code with out the IDE it sure is nice to
relax and let the IDE do a lot of the work when I can.

Ken

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Rick is certainly entitled to his thoughts on the issue, but for the
sake of hearing the other side I'll say that I get along just fine
without the IDE. Now I'm sure the situations scale a little higher than
the ones I'm in at the moment, but certainly I've done work on fairly
complex, team-based software development projects using the .net
framework. It's all about finding the environment that is comfortable to
your personal nuances and habits, I think. The IDE may be an option for
some, but I must disagree with its being a necessity.

Jared

On 3/26/2009 1:57 PM, Ricks Place wrote:

Hi Alex:
Did you set up your IDE for working with a Screen Reader and make use
of the JAWS Scripts?
If you are going to do any real programming you will need to work in
an IDE. There is just too much complexity and too many lines of code
to work in a Text Editor  for anything but a small demo project.
How are you going to handle any Interop or SDK technicals? What about
DataBase, DataSets and Forms or Pages if you want to work on the net?
Are you going to wire up all the web.config or app.config settings by
hand?
If you want to play around a little your plan is fine. If you are
going to work on any real projects or do any work at an educational
institution you need to learn how to make the IDE work to your
satisfaction. That can be done.
Rick USA
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