RE: using breadboards

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:42:54 -0500


It's hard to order but if you can't find one ask me and I can get my kids to
pick one up at radio shack or the source in BC since  that's where it is
made.  I have had one for a year and love it.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:40 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: using breadboards

yeah hoo, thanks for the multi meter link, having worked in modular 
electronics, auto mechanics, and as a handyman, I'm used to doing this stuff

on my own, and miss not being able to check the readings for myself!

take care,
inthane
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: using breadboards


> Another place for parts is electronic things people don't want. lots of 
> transformers, and other goodies.
> if your going to play with this stuff you might want to check into a 
> talking multimeter tester. it can help find out if parts are worth keeping

> and witch way they fit.
> The Nexxtech talking multimeter is available from a place
> called KMS Tools in Canada. Their web site is
> http://kmstools.com
> and the multimeter is listed under "automotive tools". They will ship to 
> the
> US and Canada, but we are not sure if they will ship to other countries. 
> The
> total cost of the multimeter, including shipping, is approximately $45 to
> USA addresses.
>
> At 09:57 AM 2/23/2009, you wrote:
>>I can handle building the laptop, I think. Getting all those parts in 
>>where they go is a nice pain in the ass, though.
>>I had to switch out the motherboard on my gateway computer, that provided 
>>for an interesting experience. :)
>>Thanks for the links though, I"ll check them out.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:56 AM
>>Subject: Re: using breadboards
>>
>>
>>>here are a few sites that might give you some interesting reading,
>>>build your own laptop:
>>>http://www.daileyint.com/build/buildtoc.htm
>>>how stuff works:
>>>http://www.howstuffworks.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>At 04:43 PM 2/22/2009, you wrote:
>>>>I figured I was totally scrued up.
>>>>It's just something I want to do.
>>>>I have an idea for a PDA I would like to build that sounds fun, just my 
>>>>personal little PDA. I could totally customize it, and it would be 
>>>>cheaper than anything I could buy more than likely.
>>>>I also want to just learn how these things work. I've often found them 
>>>>interesting.
>>>>I have been digging around for some electronics tutorials, but haven't 
>>>>found all that much that doesn't consist of a ton of pictures, etc etc.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>The Elf
>>>>To: 
>>>><mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:34 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: using breadboards
>>>>
>>>>lol, odd list to send this to, but I used to do modular electronics, so 
>>>>your in luck.
>>>>
>>>>firstly, that setup will not do the job, you need to find a basic 
>>>>electronics tutorial and read it, smile, not ragging on you, just the 
>>>>truth.
>>>>
>>>>there are basic principles that you haven't grasped yet.
>>>>
>>>>for a battery charger, you need the 110 volt (wall) plug, a transformer,

>>>>you need a full  wave rectifier (I'll explain in a minute) and you may 
>>>>want some filter capacitors, though there not really needed for a bat 
>>>>charger.
>>>>
>>>>now then, your first mistake is that your setup would have put wall type

>>>>current, called AC for alternating current, into resisters and batteries

>>>>which are DC (direct current) devices , that's a large shocking flam 
>>>>buoy recipe.
>>>>number two, you said resisters to bring the current down, yes resisters 
>>>>will drop current, but not in the way you need it to, this kind and type

>>>>of current step down is done with a transformer (that's why so many 
>>>>things with removable wall plugs have that large box either at the wall 
>>>>end, or in the middle of the cord, the box is mostly the transformer 
>>>>that reduces the voltage and changes the amperage of the wall current.
>>>>  and without the full or half wave bridge rectifier I mentioned before,

>>>> your still plugging DC parts into an ac circuit, another flam buoy!
>>>>the full wave bridge rectifier I have been mentioning is the component 
>>>>that changes the AC current coming out of the transformer into DC 
>>>>current for the batteries to charge off of.
>>>>
>>>>here is the correct series of components for a simple power supply:
>>>>
>>>>1. 110 volt power plug, which you attach to a specific set of contacts 
>>>>on a 110 AC to... (output voltage equals the number of batteries going 
>>>>into the battery holder, times 1.5 volts) so if you have a battery clip 
>>>>for 2 batteries, then its 3 volts, if its four then it's six volts) AC 
>>>>transformer (note here, all the transformer does is change the voltage 
>>>>and amperage of the power, not its type, at this point you still have AC

>>>>current running through the thing).
>>>>3. to the output side of the transformer you attach the input leads off 
>>>>the  full wave bridge rectifier (this is the device that changes the 
>>>>power from AC, to DC so its the same type of current as your batteries).
>>>>4. to the output side of the FWBR you can either:
>>>>4-1. insert two filter capacitors to screen out noise the circuitry 
>>>>generates, but this is not needed in a simple charger(*note,! the filter

>>>>capacitors have to be hooked up the correct way, one end is positive one

>>>>negative).
>>>>or,
>>>>4-2. attach your battery holder, making sure you get the polarity of the

>>>>wires correct to the battery holder , or your making a loud bang and a 
>>>>lot of stink and a hazard out of your batteries.
>>>>
>>>>another point, this simple setup has no way, like many chargers you buy 
>>>>do now a days, to tell when the batteries are fully charged, and stop 
>>>>trying to charge them, and this will heat up, and eventually give you 
>>>>another ka boom.
>>>>
>>>>the circuitry for a regulator is not to hard, but I can't pull it out of

>>>>my head like I can a simple power supply.
>>>>
>>>>that is the basics of a power supply and it will work as a charger. and 
>>>>it will not cost much, but why reinvent the wheel, unless your going to 
>>>>try for some work in the electronics field? which I would not advise, 
>>>>some of the stuff is extremely complex, and some of it quite delicate, 
>>>>and none of it is marked in a method that can be  read with our current 
>>>>tech abilities.
>>>>
>>>>laters,
>>>>inthane
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <mailto:tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Tyler Littlefield
>>>>To: 
>>>><mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:06 PM
>>>>Subject: using breadboards
>>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>I'm looking to start using breadboards to create some small things.
>>>>I'd like to start off with something small, possibly a battery charger 
>>>>or something similar.
>>>>I found a small tutorial on instructables, but not totally sure how to 
>>>>get going.
>>>>It explained how things work somewhat, but not accurately enough for me.
>>>>It mainly used pictures to explain, which didn't do me a whole lot of 
>>>>good.
>>>>Any ideas on how I can set this up?
>>>>I understand the polarity--hooking one negative end to the positive etc 
>>>>so that the circuit forms a loop, I'm just not sure how to do what I 
>>>>want.
>>>>So, here's my idea.
>>>>If I figure out the layout, I can set up a power cable going from the 
>>>>outlet to the breadboard.
>>>>Then I can place in jumpers to bridge the gap.
>>>>I can take the 120 volts down to 9 with some resisters (?) and hook a 
>>>>battery pack to the other end that will charge the batteries.
>>>>I'm thinking I'm way off, but... ideas would be great.
>>>>If I could, I'd like to set it up so it'd charge like 4 at once, then I 
>>>>could cut down the 120 to 36. Possibly put in a heat sink to keep it 
>>>>from getting really hot.
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>trouble
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