It's hard to order but if you can't find one ask me and I can get my kids to pick one up at radio shack or the source in BC since that's where it is made. I have had one for a year and love it. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:40 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: using breadboards yeah hoo, thanks for the multi meter link, having worked in modular electronics, auto mechanics, and as a handyman, I'm used to doing this stuff on my own, and miss not being able to check the readings for myself! take care, inthane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: using breadboards > Another place for parts is electronic things people don't want. lots of > transformers, and other goodies. > if your going to play with this stuff you might want to check into a > talking multimeter tester. it can help find out if parts are worth keeping > and witch way they fit. > The Nexxtech talking multimeter is available from a place > called KMS Tools in Canada. Their web site is > http://kmstools.com > and the multimeter is listed under "automotive tools". They will ship to > the > US and Canada, but we are not sure if they will ship to other countries. > The > total cost of the multimeter, including shipping, is approximately $45 to > USA addresses. > > At 09:57 AM 2/23/2009, you wrote: >>I can handle building the laptop, I think. Getting all those parts in >>where they go is a nice pain in the ass, though. >>I had to switch out the motherboard on my gateway computer, that provided >>for an interesting experience. :) >>Thanks for the links though, I"ll check them out. >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:56 AM >>Subject: Re: using breadboards >> >> >>>here are a few sites that might give you some interesting reading, >>>build your own laptop: >>>http://www.daileyint.com/build/buildtoc.htm >>>how stuff works: >>>http://www.howstuffworks.com/ >>> >>> >>>At 04:43 PM 2/22/2009, you wrote: >>>>I figured I was totally scrued up. >>>>It's just something I want to do. >>>>I have an idea for a PDA I would like to build that sounds fun, just my >>>>personal little PDA. I could totally customize it, and it would be >>>>cheaper than anything I could buy more than likely. >>>>I also want to just learn how these things work. I've often found them >>>>interesting. >>>>I have been digging around for some electronics tutorials, but haven't >>>>found all that much that doesn't consist of a ton of pictures, etc etc. >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>The Elf >>>>To: >>>><mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:34 PM >>>>Subject: Re: using breadboards >>>> >>>>lol, odd list to send this to, but I used to do modular electronics, so >>>>your in luck. >>>> >>>>firstly, that setup will not do the job, you need to find a basic >>>>electronics tutorial and read it, smile, not ragging on you, just the >>>>truth. >>>> >>>>there are basic principles that you haven't grasped yet. >>>> >>>>for a battery charger, you need the 110 volt (wall) plug, a transformer, >>>>you need a full wave rectifier (I'll explain in a minute) and you may >>>>want some filter capacitors, though there not really needed for a bat >>>>charger. >>>> >>>>now then, your first mistake is that your setup would have put wall type >>>>current, called AC for alternating current, into resisters and batteries >>>>which are DC (direct current) devices , that's a large shocking flam >>>>buoy recipe. >>>>number two, you said resisters to bring the current down, yes resisters >>>>will drop current, but not in the way you need it to, this kind and type >>>>of current step down is done with a transformer (that's why so many >>>>things with removable wall plugs have that large box either at the wall >>>>end, or in the middle of the cord, the box is mostly the transformer >>>>that reduces the voltage and changes the amperage of the wall current. >>>> and without the full or half wave bridge rectifier I mentioned before, >>>> your still plugging DC parts into an ac circuit, another flam buoy! >>>>the full wave bridge rectifier I have been mentioning is the component >>>>that changes the AC current coming out of the transformer into DC >>>>current for the batteries to charge off of. >>>> >>>>here is the correct series of components for a simple power supply: >>>> >>>>1. 110 volt power plug, which you attach to a specific set of contacts >>>>on a 110 AC to... (output voltage equals the number of batteries going >>>>into the battery holder, times 1.5 volts) so if you have a battery clip >>>>for 2 batteries, then its 3 volts, if its four then it's six volts) AC >>>>transformer (note here, all the transformer does is change the voltage >>>>and amperage of the power, not its type, at this point you still have AC >>>>current running through the thing). >>>>3. to the output side of the transformer you attach the input leads off >>>>the full wave bridge rectifier (this is the device that changes the >>>>power from AC, to DC so its the same type of current as your batteries). >>>>4. to the output side of the FWBR you can either: >>>>4-1. insert two filter capacitors to screen out noise the circuitry >>>>generates, but this is not needed in a simple charger(*note,! the filter >>>>capacitors have to be hooked up the correct way, one end is positive one >>>>negative). >>>>or, >>>>4-2. attach your battery holder, making sure you get the polarity of the >>>>wires correct to the battery holder , or your making a loud bang and a >>>>lot of stink and a hazard out of your batteries. >>>> >>>>another point, this simple setup has no way, like many chargers you buy >>>>do now a days, to tell when the batteries are fully charged, and stop >>>>trying to charge them, and this will heat up, and eventually give you >>>>another ka boom. >>>> >>>>the circuitry for a regulator is not to hard, but I can't pull it out of >>>>my head like I can a simple power supply. >>>> >>>>that is the basics of a power supply and it will work as a charger. and >>>>it will not cost much, but why reinvent the wheel, unless your going to >>>>try for some work in the electronics field? which I would not advise, >>>>some of the stuff is extremely complex, and some of it quite delicate, >>>>and none of it is marked in a method that can be read with our current >>>>tech abilities. >>>> >>>>laters, >>>>inthane >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: <mailto:tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Tyler Littlefield >>>>To: >>>><mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:06 PM >>>>Subject: using breadboards >>>> >>>>Hello, >>>>I'm looking to start using breadboards to create some small things. >>>>I'd like to start off with something small, possibly a battery charger >>>>or something similar. >>>>I found a small tutorial on instructables, but not totally sure how to >>>>get going. >>>>It explained how things work somewhat, but not accurately enough for me. >>>>It mainly used pictures to explain, which didn't do me a whole lot of >>>>good. >>>>Any ideas on how I can set this up? >>>>I understand the polarity--hooking one negative end to the positive etc >>>>so that the circuit forms a loop, I'm just not sure how to do what I >>>>want. >>>>So, here's my idea. >>>>If I figure out the layout, I can set up a power cable going from the >>>>outlet to the breadboard. >>>>Then I can place in jumpers to bridge the gap. >>>>I can take the 120 volts down to 9 with some resisters (?) and hook a >>>>battery pack to the other end that will charge the batteries. >>>>I'm thinking I'm way off, but... ideas would be great. >>>>If I could, I'd like to set it up so it'd charge like 4 at once, then I >>>>could cut down the 120 to 36. Possibly put in a heat sink to keep it >>>>from getting really hot. >>> >>>Tim >>>trouble >>>Verizon FIOS support tech >>>"Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." >>>--Sam Brown >>> >>>Blindeudora list owner. >>>To subscribe or info: //www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora >>>__________ >>>View the list's information and change your settings at >>>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >>__________ >>View the list's information and change your settings at >>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > Tim > trouble > Verizon FIOS support tech > "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." > --Sam Brown > > Blindeudora list owner. > To subscribe or info: //www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind