Re: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters

Hi Jamal and all. I was going through mail with regards to this topic, and a thought just struck me. In c++, there is an escape sequence \a i think, that causes the pc to beep when the end of a line is reached. Is there a possibility to adapt this to signal a page break or a new page in EdSharp? Just a thought for consideration. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:10 AM
Subject: RE: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters


I found that some editors do not automatically start a new line after a
form feed character, so adopted the convention with structured text
format to add a line feed so that a structured text file would display
as expected in any text editor (not just EdSharp).

I could make the new page address feature only look at a form feed.  The
disadvantage is that all the EdSharp commands related to structured text
format would not work with such pages.  So, there is a trade off.  I
suppose one could search and replace \f\n with \f before saving as .rtf.

Let's continue to discuss.  Other feedback also welcome.

Jamal


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:52 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters

This is superlative, Jamal! Right now, Jaws just speaks nonprinting
characters as character 0.  Not quite certain why that is. Could there
be a modification where EdSharp views either a form-feed/linefeed
combination or simply a formfeed as a page break? I think that would be
truer to the rtf implementation.

On 7/31/09, Jamal Mazrui <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jackie,
I am having an issue I need to resolve with my empower@xxxxxxxxx
account, from which I would normally discuss such issues, but I wanted



to get back to you.

I have not figured out how to make white space characters spoken when
cursoring through text, though do not know how much of the problem is
due to the screen reader and might be solved with a configuration
dictionary.  EdSharp uses the RichTextBox control of the .NET
Framework, so if anyone else discovers some relevant setting, please

let me know.


Today I posted an update to EdSharp with a new configuration option
called HardPage Address (Alt+H in the Alt+Shift+C dialog).  If set to
Y, the status line will display the page, line, and column of the
cursor, rather than the default of the line, column, and percent

position.

Alt+A has also been enhanced so that it toggles between these two
verbalizations of the address.

Note that a hard page break in EdSharp is a form feed followed by a
line feed, which Control+Enter inserts.  Control+PageDown and
Control+PageUp can be used to navigate among pages, which EdSharp also



calls sections of a structured text document.

My web site server may not be reflecting the correct date of the
latest EdSharp, but you can still use the Elevate command (F11) and
answer yes to the update prompt.

Hope this helps, and let me know if other enhancements could further
assist BookShare volunteers.

Jamal


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:48 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters

& this is *precisely* why I put it out on list instead of a private
email. Truth be told, I'd use it in a new york heartbeat over
Microsoft word, which I consider to be both a resource hog & seriously



bloated, as well as a possible security threat w/its potential for
macro viruses, etc. I should just pour thru Jamal's source code & see
if I could change the relevant parts myself, but picking thru some1
else's code can take a huge amount of time, so, being busy (never mind



lazy), I just figured I'd ask the guru himself.

On 7/31/09, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,
I would certainly be one who would use it for that purpose. One
reason



is because it has such wonderful text manipulation facilities.

Jim

----------
Jim Homme
Usability Services
412-544-1810
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx

"You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim
Homme Sr.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:14 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters

Jamal:

Is there any way that EdSharp can be made to display nonprinting
characters, specifically tabs, page breaks, paragraph marks, etc., in



RTF files, & is there any way it can display page numbers in the
status line if so requested.

It does a good job on rtf files, & I think a lot of folks who
volunteer for Bookshare would like to use it as an editor to
proofread



books, either because they don't have word or because word is simply
such a resource hog! I know you're familiar w/bookshare & the work
the



volunteers of the organization do in order to get books into the
collection. I realize EdSharp is rather a programming editor but I
think it could really shine proofing Bookshare materials as well, if
we could get page numbering displayed.

Thanks for any info.

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