RE: the plug-in

No feedback yet.
But I just wanted to make sure it was in the mix.
Interestingly enough though, they did not shrug off the problem like I
thought they would once I mentioned VS2010.
So I am just hoping the obvious menu issue would be corrected, making it
easier to get the scripts working for JAWS 12 as well as prior versions of
JAWS.
Looks like I will have to do my initial efforts using JAWS 11.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:00 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: the plug-in

Hi Rodney,
I have called fs and they didn't seem very concerned about the support of
vs2010 saying that they hoped to get it working someday.
what has been their response on your particular menu issue?
I've got the same one.
thanks
rick


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rodney Haynie
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:39 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: the plug-in

I currently have an FS Case # for JAWS 12 for why the menu bar becomes
unreadable in a simple progression The menu bar will drop, and you can arrow
up and down and across, but the menu items are not read.  .  And in that
progression , the JAWS cursor was reading information from my desktop even
though it was not visible on the maximized VS2010 screen.

As we already mentioned a couple times before JAWS 11 does not show this
bug.

I think it is pretty clear that two solutions would be great at this point.


One is to get VS2010 scripted with JAWS to the same level the current
VS2005/2008 scripts work for those releases.
Second is the plug-in effort.

-Rodney


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:15 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: the plug-in

The reason they only have basic support is the same reason it has never
really worked well.  If you call FS they don't support it at all. We are the
ones that wrote the scripts those of us on this list.  The Jaws scripts can
easily fix the text editor if you have time to do it.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin
Daubenmire
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:50 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: the plug-in

Hi all,

The reason I opted to go the plug-in/Addin route was because jaws
version 12 support of WPF and UI Automation is in the early
trial/error phases. This potentially means that scripting jaws may not
be the quickest route to getting reliable support into vs 2010 for
people who need it fast for work or college. More than likely this is
why fs only has basic support for the code editor currently in vs
2010. The addin would bring reliable speech to jaws and perhaps other
screen readers if others would want to join the project and program
the support into the addin project. That would be awesome! The addin
does not have to be just for jaws, it could be for any screen reader
if enough volunteers contribute.

/Justin

On 11/16/10, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> its been discussed but I don't think it's gotten very far.
>
> I think ken Perry poked into it some and decided that the 2008 ones could
be
> reconfigured easy enough but that was the last I herd of it.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Daubenmire" <jdaubenmire@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Qiestopm Re: the plug-in
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Is there already a vs 2010 plug-in being developed? If yes, I was
>> unaware of it and perhaps we can join our efforts.
>>
>> Please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> /Justin
>>
>> On 11/16/10, Alex Coleman <AlexC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Likewise.
>>>
>>> I am interested in accessibility of VS 2010 Professional, as that is
>>> what we have adopted here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mark Matthews [mailto:mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:17 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Qiestopm Re: the plug-in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd thought I'd start a new thread as this is to do with the plug-in,
>>> but not related to Justin's project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Apologies if this is rather elementary, but could someone explain, or
>>> point me to information about how the plug-in actually works, and I'm
>>> also curious as to why it only works with the Professional version -
>>> would I be on the right lines by assuming the utility uses components
>>> which aren't present in the Express?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to take the opportunity to thank the team for there
>>> excellent work on the 2005/2008 scripts. After much fiddling round, I
>>> got VS2008 express functioning fully from the ISO installation. I doubt
>>> very much if I'll ever reach even half the standard of Programmer as
>>> some of the list members, never the less its always been a subject that
>>> I've been interested in, and I'm thinking no knowledge is wasted
>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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