Re: moving controls

Hi Pranav: I am not on that list but will sign up. Do you Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: moving controls



Rick,
Marvin asked the same question on the program-l list. See the archives there 
since the responses are quite comprehensive. The list is hosted on
freelists.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricks Place
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:47 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: moving controls

No sweat Inthane. We are looking at it and I will write up a step by step
blurb and post if I get it working. I just tested out the Table Layout
Control with Windoweyes. I had to just tab to the Table Control and blindly drop a label and textbox on it. They were put in the first row Row 0 column 0 and column 1. The properties for each control tell what row and column it is in. I could not modify the control size properties but am going to see if
I can change the row and column settings in the properties window to put one 

control on top of the other, ie. row 0 column 0, row 1 column 0 instead of
the default of row 0 column 0 row 0 column 1.
If this works this would be one way of positioning controls with a table and
not relying on the Forms Designer other than as a container to blindly plop 
controls onto.
I'll post up in a few minuts.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "InthaneElf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: moving controls



* sad smile *, unfortunately, I have had less experience in .net than the
two of you, I was able to convert my VB 6 fruit basket demo in it, and
played with a couple other things, but most of it was so confusing due to
the changes between the two that I never mastered, or even half learned the 


.net environment.

what I have been able to pass along has mainly things I found to be the
same, or similar enough that I know its there in both.
I have passed along what I can remember but most of my knowledge was in
files I had assembled, and may well have lost in a double drive crash I
suffered here about a month back.
I'm still working on salvaging things, and may be able to get things back, 


or some of it, but most of it is in limbo right now.

Jamal knows some about it, and Sina probably could search out some of the
same posts I had from his massive archives of BP postings, I'd give that a 


try.

sorry I can't be more helpful, it truly grieves me to be so unable,
inthane
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Agemtree
"merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones"
www.agemtree.com
operator: Fruit Basket Demo Sight, where you can find a similar project
done in several programming languages, along with its source code, so you
can decide what language is right for you
http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: moving controls



Hi Inthane:
I can set the size and position manually by specifying numbers for the
horizontal and vertical values of the position property. What I would
like to do is be able to lign up say 3 label textbox controls so they
read properly and look ok by using something like the flow panel control
or table layout control or something else.    What about the Anchor
control property? Can I anchor based on another control somehow?What
about docking, sounds interesting? If you have done this cool, if not I
will start Googling them to see if anything pops up that might make this
process easier.
I use Windoweyes so working in the forms designer and with the Table
Layout control has not been something I could do since Windoweyes will
not read the table nor cells in the designer so I have no clue where to
drop labels nor textboxes to get them into the cells correctly. I will
look at the properties for a table layout control to see if I can do
something there but not likely since I can't drop anything into the
Properties Windo itself but might be able to put the name of a label or
textbox control in the appropriate cell, if the cells are properties of
the bloody table layout control and it lets me do that. Sorry, Allot of
options but I have not found the slam dunk yet so am just asking how you
guys have done positioning. Absolutely no substitute for experience when
it comes to accessibility issues and visual challanges. If I figure
anything out I will do a step by step for publishing on your grab bag if
you want, might save someone else some headaches someday.
Rick USA
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "InthaneElf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: moving controls



you can use the layout system, or you can change the position in the
properties window for the control by using the "top" and "left"
properties, same with size using the "width" and "height" properties.
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Agemtree
"merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones"
www.agemtree.com
operator: Fruit Basket Demo Sight, where you can find a similar project
done in several programming languages, along with its source code, so
you can decide what language is right for you
http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:00 AM
Subject: moving controls



Hi.
how do i move controls, on a form in vb.dot net, and got overlapping
controls.
or do i just use the table layout?
cheers Marvin.


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