Re: [macvoiceover] Re: preparing for your install of snow leopard; something to consider:
- From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:00:45 -0400
Hi,
I strongly recommend joining the programming blind mailing list (on
freelists I think). there you will find crusty old hackers like me,
shit hot young guns, nearly total newbies and seasoned professionals.
Sometimes questions are answered with links and other times people
will provide a partial example so you will have to learn how to get
things done on your own.
The programming blind crew has worked with Jamal Mazrui to build a set
of identical programs called "Fruit Basket" which is the same program
implemented in a whole pile of different languages which is very
helpful if comparing programming languages/environments which it
sounds like you would like to do.
Happy Hacking,
cdh
On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:
Hi how are you? I have some questions on what programming tools
would help when it comes to learning and understanding the different
programming languages? I ask this question, because i've taken a
couple of programming languages and i'd like to know if there is a
way to learn more about different computer programming languages as
well as what would be the best ways to use access technology to our
advantage while programming in different computer languages for
example basic, and c? Colbalt was the next language, but I'd like
to know if there is a computer language that comes close to the jaws
scripting language and how to transfer the skills from the computer
programming languages to the jaws scripting language? I would
appreciate any information that you might have? P.S. I'd also like
to know if you may have heard of the w e a program? I think that
this is a program that people can take advantage of and i'm learning
some things that people can go to get certified to do but the
problem is that more people should know about such programs and how
that can be used as a tool to help reach the goal of employment.
I appreciate your thaughts and comments.
----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Stefik
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Sodbeans
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Auditory interface ideas, what would help?
Hello folks,
We're getting pretty close here in our netbeans tools, possibly
within the next few months, to adding some very nice auditory
enhancements to NetBeans for blind users. I've got an overwhelming
number of ideas about what could help, but I can't implement them
all and would like to get some feedback from the community.
Specifically, we're looking for some ideas in two main areas, code
completion and auditory navigation.
1. Code completion --- Whenever I've talked to folks in the past
about code completion with audio, people have suggested that one of
the most annoying issues with code completion is changes in focus.
Anyone have ideas about auditory code completion? Besides managing
focus better, anyone have any ideas on how to make it more accessible?
2. Auditory navigation --- I have a graduate student currently
working on a blind code navigation system. Right now, the system
allows you to jump around the source window and find variable
declarations, method declarations, and other similar things, but we
want to expand the navigation to make things easier.
One idea I had, for example, was to make the navigation window
"debugger sensitive" so that if you are navigating around while your
code is executing, there will be audio that tells you more
information about what you've browsed to. For example, if you
navigate and land on a variable, it might tell you its name, type,
and if the debugger is running, what its value is, or other
information, depending on how much useful audio we can put into a
short cue.
But really, we're doing this project for this community. We
genuinely want to make our tools as accessible as humanly possible,
and we're going out of our way to make it so. If anyone has any
ideas about what kind of tools would help you, go ahead and put them
here, I'd love to hear about them!
Obviously, we have limited development time, so it's unlikely we'll
implement every suggestion, but brainstorming helps.
Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
Department of Computer Science
Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
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