Re: linux screen readers

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Quoting Tony Hernandez <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

 I do believe Inthane was joking.
 
 Tony Hernandez
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 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 AM
 Subject: Re: linux screen readers
 
 
 No, No, No, this is absolutely not the approach to take. This silly
 approach
 will absolutely not work to our benefit. This is completely
 convoluted and
 very stupid logic to want to start "beating" people once they don't
 do what
 you want. Remember, we need something from them, and they need
 nothing from
 us, so it behooves us to kindly, very kindly request an ear for a
 few
 minutes in order to explain our plight. You must exhaust all
 resources
 before getting aggressive. What if after a kind request the other
 party
 agrees and begins to help? then all is well and we benefit
 immensely. On the
 other hand, what if you start doing stupid things such as getting
 very
 aggressive and threatening at the offset then demand help? The other
 party
 will not only not want to help you, but they will have a very
 incorrect view
 of you and who you represent. Yes, the squeaky gear might get the
 oil, but
 we're not talking mechanics here, we're talking human interactions.
 
 Gees,
 
 Matthew
 ---- Original Message ----- 
 From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:05 PM
 Subject: Re: linux screen readers
 
 
 > then it sounds like its time for those who are interested to go
 beat the
 > orca developers vigorously about the head and shoulders with there
 canes
 > until they give the needed information, eh?
 >
 > smile, I have found quite often that the old saying "the squeaky
 gear gets
 > the oil" is very true
 >
 > I'll even join in some, since I will undoubtedly need some of
 this
 > knowledge somewhere along the line, though the need hasn't come up
 yet.
 >
 > take care,
 > inthane
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
 > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:08 AM
 > Subject: Re: linux screen readers
 >
 >
 >> From what I have seen there're no lists for orca scripting, nor
 >> documentation available for it. I do think we should have this
 list,
 >> as we should perhaps have a nvda scripting list, sinse this
 reader is
 >> going really fast in its developement.
 >> I guess, however, I can not help writting tutorials about how to
 >> script orca, because I even haven't found an explanation about
 how is
 >> the window structure in gnome apps (e.e if there are handles,
 control
 >> ids and the like). This is what I miss, it wouldn't make seense
 to try
 >> to make an app accessible without knowing first what we have in
 hands
 >> to do that.
 >> Marlon
 >>
 >> 2007/9/12, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>:
 >>> I definately have the impression that Orca and GUI access on
 Linux have
 >>> made major strides in progress this past year, so would
 encourage anyone
 >>> interested to check out this platform.  Sun, IBM, and Google,
 among
 >>> others, are committed to Linux and have shown genuine interest
 in
 >>> accessibility.  I think they would welcome feedback from blind
 people
 >>> doing GUI application development in that area.
 >>>
 >>> Does anyone here happen to know if there is a scripting list for
 Orca,
 >>> and
 >>> if so, how to subscribe?
 >>>
 >>> Jamal
 >>>
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