Re: j Macarty, could use your assistance! was: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers

Jamal,
all I have at this time is the information that j Macarty's E mail gave, which I included in the text around the link. its a stand alone application, and if I remember right, one starts the application by entering on it, then uses the screen print key on the image one is trying to OCR and I believe the application will open then to ask what you want to do with this captured image. and I believe that you save it as a .MDI document, then you open that file which should start the correct Microsoft program to OCR the file and render it for your reading.
if j catches this post maybe he can clarify this whole thing further than this, and I'll nab his explanation and put it with the application for folks to get with it.
I set it up and ran through it once, found that it seemed to be working alright, and haven't put it back on my newly reloaded machine yet due to the fact that I rarely deal with screen images, the old "once in a harvest moon" scenario.
there is stuff on the web about it though, I found the app in a Google search after J's post on the list about it and its value to him.
sorry I can't be of more help at this point, but if he doesn't have, or he misses this post and doesn't expand on it, I will see what I can find. 

inthane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers



Thanks for the info.  Can you distribute more documentation with it?  I
guess PrintKey.exe is the utility, itself, rather than an installer.
When I ran it, there were no messages, either from a GUI or a command
prompt.  I tried typical help command-line parameters to no avail.  What
is .mdi format (I have not heard of it before)?  Can any version of
Microsoft Word read it?  How does one do this with Word?

Assuming the program works as you have described (though I need to learn
specific steps of invocation), it seems considerably different in purpose
than PDF2OCR.  It seems that PrintKey is for learning about a screen
image, whereas PDF2OCR is for learning about a PDF file.  Both involve OCR
(though PrintKey does not do this, itself), but the types of information
to be accessed in a typically temporarl, static screen image are usually
different than the content of a potentially large or formal piece of
writing in a PDF.

Jamal
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007,
inthaneelf wrote:


Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:03:32 -0700
From: inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers

you can google for it, but I have put it up on my grab bag site for
download, and the text that accompanies the link tells you how to use it for 
this purpose.
its a self contained executable, that you generally would go and click on to 
use, I put it in a folder in my programs files folder and generally put a
shortcut to it in CO:\Documents and Settings\[my user named folder]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
or for a universal (all users of the computer run on it:
CO:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

this loads it at start up and makes it available by just hitting the old
"print screen" button on your keyboard. but you can just make a shortcut to it anywhere, and start it if you need it, so your not loading unneeded items 
at boot up.

HTH,
Inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eileen Lafond" <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers


Where do you get print screen?

Eileen La Fond
Phone (206) 386-0011
e.mail Eileen.LaFond@xxxxxxxxxxx

>>> "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 9/14/2007 2:29 PM >>>
I understand, print screen is a small utility that Jay Macarty , put out as 
a interim solution for folks that had to deal with screen images sent to
them by clients, to OCR them, so I thought in the spirit of seeing how this free OCR module that your using did compared to other scanners that are free 
also I would run it through it.

and yes, the setup I am talking about is for OCRing a completely graphic
image and attempting to render it into a text version.
I wasn't trying to be offensive Jamal, but testing your program against some 
others isn't a bad idea, to give you an idea of how well it, and this
freebee OCR module does compared to other things out here, that are free, or 
included in suite's that a lot of us have?

inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers


> FYI -- the 1.0 release version is considerably better than the beta
> version due to performing OCR on a page-by-page basis and to the
> convenience of converting any number of PDFs in a directory with a
> single command.  PDF2OCR does work on text-based as well as image-based
> PDFs, but the results on text-based ones are generally not as good as
> with other utilities that extract the text directly rather than
> analyzing the picture of each page.
>
> Jamal
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, inthaneelf wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:52:12 -0700
>> From: inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers
>>
>> and print screen, lets see how this freebee works out, smile
>>
>> and Jamal, I appreciate what your working on, just want to make sure >> your 
>> getting at least 60% of what your hoping for out of it.
>>
>> inthane
>> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
>> Links
>> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me >> at: 
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several >> programming 
>> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
>> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:47 AM
>> Subject: RE: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers
>>
>>
>> > If someone wants to submit a sample, I can run it through the PDF >> > tools 
>> > that
>> > come with OmniPage 15.  Also, someone else should run the sample
>> > through
>> > the
>> > image printer and OCR built into MS Word.
>> >
>> >
>> > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>> > Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> > Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:programmingblind- 
>> >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:42 AM
>> >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: Re: Introducing PDF2OCR and seeking testers
>> >>
>> >> I would expect better results from Kurzweil 1000, which uses >> >> arguably 
>> >> the highest grade commercial OCR technology.  The free Adobe Reader
>> >> does
>> >> not do OCR, so would not make the sample file accessible.
>> >>
>> >> Jamal
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