Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?

I agree about Dell, although I have been sorely tempted to buy a laptop 
again from them as Sina is managing to get big discounts on Dells because of 
the number he orders.
I went to the Dell website and checked the model I wanted, and it at first 5 
stars -- but then a couple weeks later it had only 3 or 3.5 stars. Go 
figure. Someone didn't like their laptop...
My own experience with Dell: I had a laptop that wouldn't work. They talked 
to be and I let slip that it had fallen on the floor once, and they said 
that voided the warranty. So I paid through the nose for a fix.  When I got 
it back it still wouldn't boot -- wouldn't even read the hard drive.  I 
returned it to them saying they didn't fix it, and that they should get it 
to reboot before they sent it back to me. They returned it without looking 
at it -- same day -- and said the diagnostics all passed and that they 
weren't responsible for my hard drive not working. I removed the hard drive 
and connected it via USB to another laptop and the disk had everything on 
it -- no corruption. I called them several times more and argued, and they 
said the only thing they could do was walk me through the steps to recover 
the initial factory settings, which would have zapped all my data -- I 
removed my data, but the dell is still sitting in pieces in my room.

If anyone wants it I can send all of it except the hard drive.
I'm so furious at Dell for the way they handled it.  They in essence told me 
not to call back on that case any more.
It is an old laptop, but since it is passing the diagnostics  I don't think 
it is a total lost cause. I just don't have the time or or patience to 
fiddle with it.

Sina -- are you still getting Dells? What is your opinion of Dell?
--le



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


Hi Brian,

Wow! That is amazing!

My requirements when building a system are nearly the exact same. The only
difference is that I will use Asus Main boards.

If I have the bucks, I will choose a Plextor optical drive.

But enough, the whole thread is supposed to be about buying a lap-top and
this does not apply.

I echo the opinion, "Stay away from Dell.".

The cost for the base machine seems to be quite reasonable, but the upgrades
are hugely inflated and you void your warrantee if you take the machine to a
third party to get it upgraded. You are much better off to deal with a
local, one of computer store with an excellent reputation. I have had too
many woes with Tiger Direct products to recommend them. Their warrantee is
very difficult to collect on.

HTH
Regards,
James

jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Everything is easy when you know how."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


hi,

i should have mentioned this before, i won't touch a dell because they are
so proprietary and who knows what parts are used.
except for my hp nx9600 laptop, i build my own towers with only intel boards
or msi boards with intel chips, don't mess with amd chips, use kingston,
crucial, or patriot ram, western hard drives, and sony or liteon optical
drives though i'm not as picky on the dvd drives.
I choose good fans and hd coolers, and I'm never forced to take crapware and
will only get stuck with vista if it's my choice.

Bryan Schulz
The BEST Solution
www.best-acts.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


> because some time is so hard to modify something...
> Look for example the del 1525 laptop.
> it comes with freedos
> and the manufacturer offers only vista drivers.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:48 AM
> Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?
>
>
>> hi,
>>
>> what do most blind people do to navigate life?
>> they find different ways to do something the sighted just look at
>> visually.
>>
>> Don't worry about what brand of computer.
>> compare the specs without thinking of what operating system unless  64
>> bit is a factor.
>> if you find one you really like but it comes with vista, don't bitch,
>> spend about $65 to get a real copy of windows xp pro.
>> i wouldn't think i had to say this.
>> i don't know why people get hung up on worrying about modifying what they
>> buy.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>> The BEST Solution
>> www.best-acts.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?
>>
>>
>>> HI Tyler,
>>>
>>> If you really insist, you can still get notebook computers with Windows
>>> XP
>>> Pro on them. A decent computer is well within your price range.
>>>
>>> Acer and a few other companies make computers that will do fine for what
>>> you
>>> need.
>>>
>>> Sorry I can't help more, but the only store I deal with is here in
>>> Oshawa
>>> Ontario.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> James
>>>
>>> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
>>> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> "Everything is easy when you know how."
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <BlindGeeks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:18 AM
>>> Subject: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I'm in the market for a new laptop.
>>> My max price range is about 1100. I'm not totally sure what I need; of
>>> course I'm looking for the best deal, but I also need something that
>>> Jaws
>>> will work on.
>>> From what I've heard, jaws does not work on 64-bit vista; are there
>>> still
>>> laptops shipped with 32 bit, or even better XP?
>>> I know a lot of the computer companies started sending everything with
>>> vista.
>>> I've also seen things like 60 day trials and etc on vista; am I going to
>>> have to purchase a full copy after I get the laptop?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
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