Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?

gotcha. I'll get it anyway. once I switch to 64 bit, that will change.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?



It can see it it can't use it there is a difference.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
Littlefield
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:41 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?

cool. but it can see all 4 gb? I plan on going 64 bit when/if fs gets done
being lazy and makes jaws 64 bit too.


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Tyler Littlefield
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skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?



Not correct the truth is it can see 4 gb it can only address 3 gb so if
you
were sold a 4 gb you got robbed.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:57 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?

Yeah, a 32-bit operating system can address up to 4Gb of RAM so you could
allocate plenty of that to a VM.  I use virtualbox and run Ubuntu inside
it
no probs.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


hmm. I've been worried about vista. I just found a system that looks
awesome for $500, and it has 4 gb of ram. Will the other 2 gb be able to
be used if I say run linux under vmware or something?


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Tyler Littlefield
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skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" <huntp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


Hi,

If I were you my main concern would be finding a laptop downgradable to
XP. I doubt you'll find one these days that comes with it pre-installed
though - Vista is ubiquitous now and it's a right pain in the ass.

I've bought two new machines in the past 12 months - an HP laptop and an HP desktop and they both came with Vista Home Premium and the quality of
JAWS's support for it is well below that of XP.  Even simple tasks like
reading back and forth through text files (regardless of the editor
being

used) causes problems such as the previous line being read instead of
the

next one when you down-arrow and then repeated "blank" being spoken when
you arrow back upwards until you refresh the screen.  Also the command
prompt isn't read properly under Vista - as soon as the window starts to
scroll JAWS starts reading random lines from the window under the
command

prompt!  It doesn't read some of the dialogues in VS 2005 that it does
under XP either. These are just a few examples.

I've just bought a new laptop and my main priority was making sure it
supported XP.

AMD processors are just as good as Intel ones and they generally have
slower clock speeds but are more efficient so compare favorably with
Intel chips that are clocked quicker.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


that answers a lot.
I've seen amd processors out there, and hear they're really good; their
speed calculations look different from pentium though. How is that
measured?

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Tyler Littlefield
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skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?


Hello,
your operating system is not a trial!!!!! If you want XP, you're going
to have to request it from the manufacturers. I would go for a 64-bit
machine with a 32-bit OS personally. At least 2 gigs of ram, but I
would up it. As big a hard drive you can get, at least a core 2 duo or
an AMD x2 processor, at least 256 MB video card dedicated memory.

Thanks
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Tyler Littlefield wrote:
Hello list,
I'm in the market for a new laptop.
My max price range is about 1100. I'm not totally sure what I need;
of

course I'm looking for the best deal, but I also need something that
Jaws will work on.
From what I've heard, jaws does not work on 64-bit vista; are there
still laptops shipped with 32 bit, or even better XP?
I know a lot of the computer companies started sending everything
with

vista.
I've also seen things like 60 day trials and etc on vista; am I going
to have to purchase a full copy after I get the laptop?

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

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