I am not excluding your comments at all. I am simply pointing out that the name that was being thrown around was a joke, nothing more. But none of us here have heard his business plan, used the product, so how can you say that his business plan is wrong when it is clear his business plan is only beginning to form, and that there are already faults in his product? If it were me I would call it spex. S P E X. But anyway, my challenge still stands to you be it open source or not, mainly for my own curiosity. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:04 AMSubject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readers
John,While we have agreed on many things in the past, you can't exclude my commenting on the subject matter just because you don't like my posts. If he's going to go public with what he wants to create, he should be allowing for criticism too. Furthermore, why in the world would I want to work for free by creating an open source piece of software? I simply don't work for free. These suggestions I'm just posting are simply off the top of my head from a business background. Oh yeah, remember that Freedom box lawsuit, well that sex idea has the potential to create some similar problems for this person. I ran a quick 30-second Google search and I think the Dragon people have pretty good standing if they decide to file a complaint regarding the name of this product. If you don't come from a business background then you won't be able to recognize what I'm conveying here for free.Matthew---- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 4:39 AMSubject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readersI think it is called pessimist, but if you have not even used the product yet, have not been able to take a look at his entire business plan, how can you prove what you say is true? What I say is more power to the guy if he can make a product that is cheaper than his competitors. Mat I have a bit of a challenge for you, why not become a true competitor of his by coming out with a mobile screen reader of your own, make it open source, make it free. Perhaps an easier challenge, put up a link to any bit of software that you have done, because I can't remember ever hearing of any that you have done. If you do this I am almost certain that the people will be as fair as they can be in pointing out its good and bad points to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:02 AMSubject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readersYes, you might, but will your target population?I'm only suggesting you consider all options and possible repercussions--can't think of the specific term for this.Matthew---- Original Message ----- From: "jaffar" <jaffar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:57 AMSubject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readersread between the lines and chill out man. i think i have lived long enough to differentiate between stupidity and cheek, guile and just simply being boring. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:38 PMSubject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readersYou're taking a very big risk in naming your product something that may ultimately end up associated with a sexual innuendo. I'm simply guessing, but I'm thinking many of your likely population of users will be blind users who for the most part:1. Your target population will be in their older years which means they will not think talking about their phone in a sexual manner to be cute or funny. Just think of the names of current cell phones out there. The names elicit such things as chocolate or raspberry or something neutral for all including generic numbers such as X30E5. It won't sound cute or funny if your mother or grandfather has to call a family member for help with their sex cell phone screen reader.2. Though males such as yourself probably won't think much of this sexual innuendo, the female population of possible customers may think differently. You can choose to ignore this facet of the population, but 50% of possible sales will disappear if you do so.3. It will be difficult for a young population of possible customers to convince their parent that a cell phone screen reader with a sexual tone is a good idea to buy.5. I don't know what country you're from, but outside of the major cities in the US, talking openly about sexuality is still not easy for many to do.6. When someone goes out into the internet to seek out product information for your screen reader, just what type of WebPages do you think they will generate when they search for the words: Sex cell phone, or, sex reader, or any combination of sex and phone. If they don't know how to clean out their history they might find themselves in some problems.I'm sure there are lots of other problems with this idea that you've obviously not considered thoroughly, but I'm just conveying these off the top of my head--imagine what professional marketing professionals can generate? If you've got money to burn on half-baked ideas then feel free and continue on your path. Just posting my opinion on subject matter you're posting publicly.Matthew---- Original Message ----- From: "jaffar" <jaffar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:52 AMSubject: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readersHi all. First up, thanks for the overwhelming response to my appeal for beta testers. In view of the tremendous response, my wife and i have agreed that i should increase the number of testers from 5 to ten. Within the next few days, I'll be setting up 2 email lists, 1 for programmibility and one for usability, so that the usability and programming aspects of the application can be discussed separately. I would also like to appoint someone from here as a sort of adviser for myself, since this is all very new to me, and my wife thinks it will be good for me to have one as well. So, if you receive an email from a list that has "speech extreme" or "sex" (smile) within the next 1 or 2 days, it will be from me. Thanks ken for the very innovative, ear catching and mind churning name of my mobile screen reader software. you gave my wife such a fit of the giggles. Also, there have been many contributions and ideas already, and if yours doesn't come on board for this release, it will be implimented in the next one. To be very honest, I'd have liked it very much for some of you to come onboard, but circumstances being what they are, it will be difficult, and it is a shame for, i could do with your constructive and intelligent input. However, when my product comes out on the market, please write to me before you place your order and i'll work out a favorable discount for you, just as a token of appreciation for all your help to me over the years, which has enabled me to reach this far towards my goal. Don't worry, I've got your names already on my database smile. Thanks all. And for those who were successful, you'll be hearing from me soon. 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