I have been there and I am not impressed most are not as far as you
and most are partially sighted. By the way are you blind or
visually impaired.
Ken
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Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:28 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: iPhone development with XCode and VoiceOver
Good afternoon Ken,
You might want to visit http://lists.apple.com and look for the
accessibility-dev list. I believe that there might be some other
blind developers there.
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On 2010-02-09, at 12:22 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
True but what we both need to be thinking is of scraping for it. If
Apple is not going to do it we should we have the tools we just have
to figure out how to best use them. Scripting for this should be
easier than scripting for visual studio because the information is
already there.
Ken
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Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:46 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: iPhone development with XCode and VoiceOver
Good morning Ken,
In short, no. I have been able to add multiple types of UI controls
to the interface, but as far as sizing and positioning nothing yet.
I notice that there are a tremendous number of unlabelled radios,
buttons, etc. in Interface Builder that will make this a definite
challenge for a blind developer.
Thanks,
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On 2010-02-09, at 9:00 AM, Ken Perry wrote:
Have you done any more han drop a label for example have you been
able to lie up controls?
Ken
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Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:01 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: iPhone development with XCode and VoiceOver
Good morning Ken,
I haven't found a consistent way, but attempting to open the context
menu (VO + Shift + M) and selecting Open in Finder works with some
degree of reliability.
HTH,
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On 2010-02-09, at 7:57 AM, Ken Perry wrote:
Did you ever find a consistant way to click on the xib files?
Ken
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bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:53 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: iPhone development with XCode and VoiceOver
Good morning,
Last night I successfully built and ran a Cocoa "Hello World"
application for OS/X using XCode and Interface Builder with
VoiceOver. The next step was to build and run a Cocoa "Hello World"
app for the iPhone.
I would be happy to hear if anyone has found information that
contradicts the following.
Problem: Anyone can register and download the iPhone SDK and start
developing iPhone applications on their Mac. However, the iPhone
Simulator, which is where you test your app, is not accessible with
VoiceOver on the Mac. Indeed, a blind developer cannot test their
own application on the Mac.
After doing some reading I believe that the answer to this is to
sign up for the iPhone Developer program ($99 USD). This provides,
amongst other things, the ability to build and test your apps on an
iPhone or iPod Touch if you have one.
I would encourage anyone interested in doing iPhone development to e-
mail accessibility@xxxxxxxxx (they are normally very responsive) to
let them know how you feel about this (and anything else regarding
Apple accessibility). It just doesn't seem right to me that blind
developers need to pay $99 to experiment with iPhone development.
Thanks,
Everett
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