RE: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:08:01 -0400
Hmm the msn client that is out is accessible it just has not been scripted
in a real world Jaws would have advanced enough and so would have system
access and window eyes to deal with these simple windows without scripts.
Oh well.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:15 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
Anyway in my next life I'll code a nice accessible MSN client.
In my current life I'm busy trying to learn to program.
I'm currently learning about Pointers in C.
On 23.10.2010 20:05, Ken Perry wrote:
> It is not separate because I updated m the security essentials and it
> upgraded all my live apps.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:57 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
>
> I'm talking about Windows Live Essentials which includes Windows Live
> Messenger, Live Mail, Silverlight etc.
> Microsoft Security Essentials a complete different package and I
> actually love that anti virus app.
> It's actually the first virus app that have stayed over 1 month on my PC.
> MS Security Essentials don't slow down my machine which is great.
>
> Ok, I was a little frustrated.
> In a perfect world MS and FS should collaborate closer and popular apps
> like Windows Live Messenger should be 100% accessible to us when released.
> But I guess that's never going to happen!
>
> I've never tried a Mac but I know you use one and as I understand it
> there are issues...
> But I have ordered an iPhone and look forward to play with my first
> Apple device.
>
> On 23.10.2010 19:14, Ken Perry wrote:
>> Email's like this are very funny. First off if it was not for Essentials
>> some of the viruses I have run into both at work and home would not have
>> been caught and that includes all the most used nod32 Norton and mcfee.
>> Second if people did stuff like this in the past we would have dumped
>> Microsoft when IE 6 came out and none of us could use it. I will give
> Jaws
>> till 12 to fix it then I will scrap windows live messenger but there is
no
>> way I will drop essentials. Oh one more thing. You could have unchecked
>> the box at update time that said update all windows live programs. Then
> you
>> could have chosen to only update essentials or others but not windows
> live.
>> I actually updated all to see if it was still accessible. I have skype
> till
>> it is fixed and there is no reason to blow a gasket. Welcome to
>> accessibility lag. The screen readers cannot keep up not even Mac screen
>> reader keeps up. I know cause I have the beta on the IPhone and let's
> just
>> say I have found 4 accessibility lags there maybe just maybe if some of
us
>> were beta testing the windows live and working on the scripts this would
> not
>> have been a problem. Windows live messenger is accessible the scripts
> just
>> need a bit of tweaking maybe if the scripts are open enough I will go see
>> what is erroring.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:06 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
>>
>> I have killed Live Messenger and all additional tools installed by the
>> Live Essentials package.
>> I will never install a M$ Live crap program again.
>>
>> I would like to try Miranda but as Tyler said it seems hard to get up
>> and running.
>> I can't find any up to date JAWS scripts either.
>>
>> I've seen a lot of frustration towards Apple on this list recently.
>> But in my opinion M$ is even worse.
>>
>> On 23.10.2010 00:35, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
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>>> I thought about Miranda, but getting it going seems to be a pain. a
>>> plugin here, a plugin there, a script here... and google shows lots of
>>> them that are old and outdated (running on jaws 4.0)... Is there a good
>>> source for a nice clean accessible miranda?
>>> On 10/22/2010 4:15 PM, Jared Wright wrote:
>>>> I just use aggragate clients--Miranda on Windows, Pidgin on Linux. All
>>>> those branded IM clients have far greater problems than their
>>>> substandard accessibility implementations.
>>>> On 10/22/2010 04:56 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>> I just joined the teeny boppers and use skype till its fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>>>> Littlefield
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:35 AM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
>>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I just remembered my friend had this same problem. Good news: There is
a
>>>> copy of windows live that still works: at oldversion.com, it's called
>>>> msn messenger. it says beta in the title, but hell, it works until fs
>>>> finds a fix and decides to charge you another SMA, then you can
upgrade.
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> -- Thanks,
>>>> Tyler Littlefield
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