RE: fix for the windows live messenger issue.

It is not separate because I updated m the security essentials and it
upgraded all my live apps.

Ken

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:57 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: fix for the windows live messenger issue.

I'm talking about Windows Live Essentials which includes Windows Live 
Messenger, Live Mail, Silverlight etc.
Microsoft Security Essentials a complete different package and I 
actually love that anti virus app.
It's actually the first virus app that have stayed over 1 month on my PC.
MS Security Essentials don't slow down my machine which is great.

Ok, I was a little frustrated.
In a perfect world MS and FS should collaborate closer and popular apps 
like Windows Live Messenger should be 100% accessible to us when released.
But I guess that's never going to happen!

I've never tried a Mac but I know you use one and as I understand it 
there are issues...
But I have ordered an iPhone and look forward to play with my first 
Apple device.

On 23.10.2010 19:14, Ken Perry wrote:
> Email's like this are very funny.  First off if it was not for Essentials
> some of the viruses I have run into both at work and home would not have
> been caught and that includes all the most used nod32 Norton and mcfee.
> Second if people did stuff like this in the past we would have dumped
> Microsoft when IE 6 came out and none of us could use it.  I will give
Jaws
> till 12 to fix it then I will scrap windows live messenger but there is no
> way I will drop essentials.  Oh one more thing.  You could have unchecked
> the box at update time that said update all windows live programs.  Then
you
> could have chosen to only update essentials or others but not windows
live.
> I actually updated all to see if it was still accessible.  I have skype
till
> it is fixed and there is no reason to blow a gasket.  Welcome to
> accessibility lag.  The screen readers cannot keep up not even Mac screen
> reader keeps up.  I know cause I have the beta on the IPhone and let's
just
> say I have found 4 accessibility lags there maybe just maybe if some of us
> were beta testing the windows live and working on the scripts this would
not
> have been a problem.  Windows live messenger is accessible the scripts
just
> need a bit of tweaking maybe if the scripts are open enough I will go see
> what is erroring.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:06 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
>
> I have killed Live Messenger and all additional tools installed by the
> Live Essentials package.
> I will never install a M$ Live crap program again.
>
> I would like to try Miranda but as Tyler said it seems hard to get up
> and running.
> I can't find any up to date JAWS scripts either.
>
> I've seen a lot of frustration towards Apple on this list recently.
> But in my opinion M$ is even worse.
>
> On 23.10.2010 00:35, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
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>> I thought about Miranda, but getting it going seems to  be a pain. a
>> plugin here, a plugin there, a script here... and google shows lots of
>> them that are old and outdated (running on jaws 4.0)... Is there a good
>> source for a nice clean accessible miranda?
>> On 10/22/2010 4:15 PM, Jared Wright wrote:
>>> I just use aggragate clients--Miranda on Windows, Pidgin on Linux. All
>>> those branded IM clients have far greater problems than their
>>> substandard accessibility implementations.
>>> On 10/22/2010 04:56 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>> I just joined the teeny boppers and use skype till its fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>>> Littlefield
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:35 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: fix for the windows live messenger issue.
>>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I just remembered my friend had this same problem. Good news: There is a
>>> copy of windows live that still works: at oldversion.com, it's called
>>> msn messenger. it says beta in the title, but hell, it works until fs
>>> finds a fix and decides to charge you another SMA, then you can upgrade.
>>> Enjoy!
>>> -- Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
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