RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks

No my correct answer is all programming languages have access issues.
Python has one its spacing.  It's easy to learn to overcome that problem
much easier than learning a big IDE like visual studio and definitely easier
than using c++ builder's IDE.  Heck for that matter its easier than learning
to stick all your variables in one spot on pascal and c for that matter.  I
actually like Python now cause I gave it a chance maybe someday you will be
forced to and you will actually have to suck eggs and write the list and say
you have gave it a try.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:50 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks

Yes of course and I know that, but what I wanted to show was that there is 
not only a single way, and that not all the blind programmers have the same 
needs, and what some programmers say that would be considered a good 
practice just because it fits to their needs.

So your correct answer would have been that yes, python is less friendly for

the blind, but because the sighted programmers like it because it offer 
visual aids and some specific features they like, and maybe because in some 
parts of the world there is a demand for python programmers, we, the blind 
programmers must make the efforts and accept to use some workarounds in 
order to have a better chance of finding work.

That would have been more correct, so those who know that they don't care 
about the sighted programmers, or know that in their country there is no a 
big demand for python, would understand better for which situations is 
python good for the blind.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks


>
>
> See again this is a Teddy problem not a real problem.  You are arguing
> because you don't work with other people.  In the real world those of us 
> who
> really code for a living must work with other coders.  If you code to make
> money you have to code with other people because no matter how much I wish
> it was so to really compete you must work in teams.  You are working as 
> one
> person so any language will do you so use what you like best and everyone
> else be damned but don't tell us what is best because you don't have to
> collaborate with other people which changes the entire game.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian 
> Rasnita
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:24 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>
> Yes I know, but the first thing I do after I install TextPad is to disable
> the indentation, because I use TextPad for other things than programming,
> and it wouldn't be nice to see that it added a certain number of spaces in
> some other documents.
>
> And even when programming, it is not nice to press home then to press the
> right arrow for more times in order to reach at the beginning of the text
> from the current line. And it is also not nice to press home and the 
> editor
> to put the cursor there implicitely, without letting you know that on that
> line there are some more spaces before the text.
>
> Of course I can find if there are more spaces, but that would require more
> time for pressing different hotkeys or setting Jaws to speak the 
> indentation
>
> level, but why doing this?
> Just for making the code more accessible for the sighted when no sighted
> person works with my code?
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:31 AM
> Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>
>
>>
>> Text pad has everything you need it has keep line indentation and show
>> spaces.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>> Rasnita
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:32 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>
>> Well, this might be also easy to do if you use a specially created editor
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