Re: edSharp doing odd things with text

Thanks--especially since you've confirmed I'm not the only one seeking out a remedy for those now many year old jaws selection problems. I especially dislike the flaky copying jaws messages as they seem to be omnipresent in all jaws updates and upgrades. In a few minutes when I come across this problem, and yes, you're correct that indeed they do happen lots more in Word than anywhere else, or maybe its because I do more copying and pasting in word, I'm going to give your fix a try. It will be interesting to see if it is faster than my current solution of simply unloading jaws when it conks out and pop starting it again. 

Thanks again,

Matthew
----- Original Message ----- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
I use it when word starts getting slow and balky, and when, I have been using a read all, to go over a section I have been working on, then I pause and arrow key up and down over a couple lines with a blank space between them, and jaws says the last line a second time instead of saying "blank" when I hit the blank line.
another spot where I re-initialize the scripts is when I go to select something and I hear nothing, and hitting control c says "nothing selected", hit the combo and many times it will start functioning properly again.
that key stroke works in many applications that have jaws scripts when it starts getting a bit flaky on you.
the one place that it doesn't work in, is Internet Explorer 6, or at least it doesn't report it, but I have rarely had troubles with IE 6 so haven't done much with that command there. 

HTH,
inthane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text



Inthane,
Very interesting. How will I know when to fire off this command? What are some symptoms? 

Thanks for introducing me to a new keyboard command.

Matthew
---- Original Message ----- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
in case it may help with this don't forget the {insert control escape} keystroke that re-initializes the scripts.
I use that in word when it is handling a large document (I'm writing a 250 + page book for role playing games in it) and it starts misbehaving, give it a try next time, maybe... it will help! 

have a good one,
inthane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
No, to be honest I never knew about that keystroke. Oddly, though, the problem I talked about yesterday was not gone even after I restarted the pc. I had to get rid of the second hard return between two right braces and as soon as I did all was well. I remember this happening occasionally in Dev C++ 4.9.9.2 as well but never as persistently. 

Have a great day,
Alex


----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:27:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text



Have you also tried JAWSKey+Escape to refresh the screen?
Jamal
On Thu, 28 Feb
2008, Alex Hall wrote:



Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:13:06 -0500
From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text



That is part of the problem; there seems to be no common factor
at all, it just "decides" to do it every now and then.  I will
let you know if I find something constant in this.



Have a great day,
Alex



----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:08:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text



If you can find a sequence of steps that reproduces the problem,

that

would help me debug it.  I suspect the cause is JAWS-related,

however,

since others have reported problems with the off screen model of

JAWS 9,

particularly in .NET-based applications.



So, if I can reproduce the problem and the cause is EdSharp, I

will fix

that; if the cause is JAWS, I will try to fix it via the scripts
distributed with EdSharp; and whether the latter case works as a

temporary

solution or not, I encourage folks to let Freedom Scientific

know.

Unfortunately, occasional oddities remain in JAWS support for

NET

applications, and the more we let FS know with specific examples,

the more

likely fixes will occur.



Regards,
Jamal
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Alex Hall wrote:



Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:13:12 -0500
From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: edSharp doing odd things with text



I have found that, using edSharp 2.6 on XP with jaws 9, I will
sometimes be told that text from one or two lines back has been
printed again.  For example, a bit of code (unfinished) was:
s=in.next();



[hard return




However, edSharp told me that the s=...  line had been put where
I wrote it and then again between the two right braces.

Arrowing

over the area in question one character at a time, between the
braces, revealed several "blank" characters and an s immediately
before the final right brace.  Not only should that s=...  line
not have been spoken a second time, but arrowing over it one
character at a time gave different text than did arrowing over

it

one line at a time.  I have found that the only way to fix this
is to restart; alt-tabbing back to it and even closing both
EdSharp and Jaws does nothing.



Have a great day,
Alex
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