Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:58:17 -0800
Inthane,
Very interesting. How will I know when to fire off this command? What are
some symptoms?
Thanks for introducing me to a new keyboard command.
Matthew
---- Original Message -----
From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
in case it may help with this don't forget the {insert control escape}
keystroke that re-initializes the scripts.
I use that in word when it is handling a large document (I'm writing a 250
+ page book for role playing games in it) and it starts misbehaving, give
it a try next time, maybe... it will help!
have a good one,
inthane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
No, to be honest I never knew about that keystroke. Oddly, though, the
problem I talked about yesterday was not gone even after I restarted the
pc. I had to get rid of the second hard return between two right braces
and as soon as I did all was well. I remember this happening
occasionally in Dev C++ 4.9.9.2 as well but never as persistently.
Have a great day,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:27:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
Have you also tried JAWSKey+Escape to refresh the screen?
Jamal
On Thu, 28 Feb
2008, Alex Hall wrote:
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:13:06 -0500
From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
That is part of the problem; there seems to be no common factor
at all, it just "decides" to do it every now and then. I will
let you know if I find something constant in this.
Have a great day,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:08:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
If you can find a sequence of steps that reproduces the problem,
that
would help me debug it. I suspect the cause is JAWS-related,
however,
since others have reported problems with the off screen model of
JAWS 9,
particularly in .NET-based applications.
So, if I can reproduce the problem and the cause is EdSharp, I
will fix
that; if the cause is JAWS, I will try to fix it via the scripts
distributed with EdSharp; and whether the latter case works as a
temporary
solution or not, I encourage folks to let Freedom Scientific
know.
Unfortunately, occasional oddities remain in JAWS support for
NET
applications, and the more we let FS know with specific examples,
the more
likely fixes will occur.
Regards,
Jamal
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Alex Hall wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:13:12 -0500
From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: edSharp doing odd things with text
I have found that, using edSharp 2.6 on XP with jaws 9, I will
sometimes be told that text from one or two lines back has been
printed again. For example, a bit of code (unfinished) was:
s=in.next();
[hard return
However, edSharp told me that the s=... line had been put where
I wrote it and then again between the two right braces.
Arrowing
over the area in question one character at a time, between the
braces, revealed several "blank" characters and an s immediately
before the final right brace. Not only should that s=... line
not have been spoken a second time, but arrowing over it one
character at a time gave different text than did arrowing over
it
one line at a time. I have found that the only way to fix this
is to restart; alt-tabbing back to it and even closing both
EdSharp and Jaws does nothing.
Have a great day,
Alex
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I use that in word when it is handling a large document (I'm writing a 250 + page book for role playing games in it) and it starts misbehaving, give it a try next time, maybe... it will help!
have a good one, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with text
No, to be honest I never knew about that keystroke. Oddly, though, the problem I talked about yesterday was not gone even after I restarted the pc. I had to get rid of the second hard return between two right braces and as soon as I did all was well. I remember this happening occasionally in Dev C++ 4.9.9.2 as well but never as persistently.Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:27:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with textHave you also tried JAWSKey+Escape to refresh the screen? Jamal On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Alex Hall wrote:Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:13:06 -0500 From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with textThat is part of the problem; there seems to be no common factor at all, it just "decides" to do it every now and then. I will let you know if I find something constant in this.Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:08:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: edSharp doing odd things with textIf you can find a sequence of steps that reproduces the problem,thatwould help me debug it. I suspect the cause is JAWS-related,however,since others have reported problems with the off screen model ofJAWS 9,particularly in .NET-based applications.So, if I can reproduce the problem and the cause is EdSharp, Iwill fixthat; if the cause is JAWS, I will try to fix it via the scripts distributed with EdSharp; and whether the latter case works as atemporarysolution or not, I encourage folks to let Freedom Scientificknow.Unfortunately, occasional oddities remain in JAWS support forNETapplications, and the more we let FS know with specific examples,the morelikely fixes will occur.Regards, Jamal On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Alex Hall wrote:Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:13:12 -0500 From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: edSharp doing odd things with textI have found that, using edSharp 2.6 on XP with jaws 9, I will sometimes be told that text from one or two lines back has been printed again. For example, a bit of code (unfinished) was: s=in.next();[hard returnHowever, edSharp told me that the s=... line had been put where I wrote it and then again between the two right braces.Arrowingover the area in question one character at a time, between the braces, revealed several "blank" characters and an s immediately before the final right brace. Not only should that s=... line not have been spoken a second time, but arrowing over it one character at a time gave different text than did arrowing overitone line at a time. I have found that the only way to fix this is to restart; alt-tabbing back to it and even closing both EdSharp and Jaws does nothing.Have a great day, Alex __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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