Re: developing and building sites

Thanks, yall!

On 3/26/08, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There are more people on the blind webbers list. I started the blind
> html list for the purpose of general discussion, not related necessarily
> to be for web design. It was intended to be for web design, but that was
> before I figured out that there was already a list for web design.
> By the way, sorry, the real link for my list is:
> blind_html@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> The subscribe link then becomes:
> blind_html-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> thanks
> Nimer J
>
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> > Why are there 2 lists for the same purpose?
> > Does anyone know which one is better?
> >
> > Octavian
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: developing and building sites
> >
> >
> >> There is another list by the name of
> >> blind_html@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subscribe at
> >> blind_html-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Thanks
> >> Nimer J
> >>
> >> inthaneelf wrote:
> >>> the ones I know of are:
> >>> Arachnophilia 4.0 (Last accessible version):
> >>> http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index_old.html
> >>>
> >>> note tab, all three versions:
> >>> http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php
> >>>
> >>> DreamWeaver 8:
> >>>
> https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&NR=0#loc=en_us&rangeUpper=6%2C0%2C65%2C0&HTMLVerRedirect=true&returnURL=%2Fcfusion%2Fstore%2Fhtml%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Fstore%3DOLS%2DUS%26&view=ols_prod&store=OLS-US&categoryOID=1147942&distributionOID=105&NR=0&viewName=Adobe%20Store%20%2D%20North%20America&pageNotFound=0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *note copy that last one out and go through it and remove the Email
> >>> client imposed line breaks, then paste it into your browsers open
> >>> dialog.
> >>>
> >>> site with an article on dream weaver 8 and jaws:
> >>> http://www.cfit.ie/articles/dreamweaver.html
> >>>
> >>> another article about DreamWeaver and accessibility at:
> >>> http://webaim.org/techniques/dreamweaver/
> >>>
> >>> Jamal's text pal is also useable for html as well.
> >>> http://www.empowermentzone.com/palsetup.exe
> >>>
> >>> folks are also using asp.net, Ajax, and some others that I don't
> >>> have noted as of this time.
> >>>
> >>> the better sites are using html, or php, or combo's of both usually,
> >>> and CSS is the big page formatting and styling code.
> >>>
> >>> there are tutorials available on some of the html variations at the
> >>> following sites:
> >>>
> >>> this one is on website design:
> >>> http://www.webdesign.org.
> >>>
> >>> a color picker that is accessible is at:
> >>> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/colorgen.php
> >>>
> >>> HTML tutorial from the blind Webbers list:
> >>> http://webdev.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/getting-started/
> >>>
> >>> xhtml:
> >>> http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/no-xhtml.htm
> >>>
> >>> and as far as I have resources to right now, CSS can be gotten from
> >>> the w3c schools site at:
> >>> www.w3schools.com/
> >>>
> >>> and the web accessibility Standards can be found at:
> >>> www.w3c.org
> >>>
> >>> there is a list dedicated to blind web site builders at:
> >>> blindwebbers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> inthane
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:04 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: developing and building sites
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I wish it wouldn't. I'm in the midst of designing our church's
> >>>> website, lot of elderly folks so I'm pretty much the resident geek, &
> >>>> I'd like to hear what others do. Cant't  it stay civilized?
> >>>>
> >>>> What tools do folks use to edit websites? Do yall stick pretty much to
> >>>> writing html code or do yall venture out into some of the wysiwyg
> >>>> editors?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/25/08, Matthew2007 <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>> Oh oh, this thread is gonna start getting ugly! I'm staying out of
> >>>>> this one
> >>>>> this time. (big smile).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matthew
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:34 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: developing and building sites
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >a slight clarification, this is his recommendation.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > not all of us out here adhere to his opinion that a blind person
> >>>>> can't
> >>>>> > build a good looking web site.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > the rest of his information is good.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > HTH,
> >>>>> > inthane
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:53 AM
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: developing and building sites
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> Hi,
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> You can search with
> >>>>> >> www.torrentz.com
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> for templates, and you will find big archives with thousand html
> >>>>> >> templates that you can use.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> For a good web design, ask a sighted good web designer to do
> >>>>> it. >> Probably
> >>>>> >> you won't find one easily, but this is the recommendation.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Octavian
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >> From: "Sauro Cesaretti" <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:28 PM
> >>>>> >> Subject: developing and building sites
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> I'd like to ask some information about developing and building
> >>>>> web >>> site.
> >>>>> >>> Particularly, I'd like to know what is the best and easiest way
> >>>>> to >>> build
> >>>>> >>> a
> >>>>> >>> good web interface.
> >>>>> >>> I've tried to use a couple cms (drupal and wordpress) but I
> >>>>> had >>> problems
> >>>>> >>> with both when
> >>>>> >>> I had to adapt pictures and logos.
> >>>>> >>> It seems complicated and wasted to use a complex CMS for a
> >>>>> website >>> that
> >>>>> >>> has
> >>>>> >>> more or less 10 pages.
> >>>>> >>> Second thing, did somebody have experience with macromedia >>>
> >>>>> dreamweaver?
> >>>>> >>> Last thing, is it possible to find some templates or wizards that
> >>>>> >>> help us to create the graphical interface of the web site?
> >>>>> >>> I hope you can help me and advice new ways to improve.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> thanks so much
> >>>>> >>> regards, Sauro
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
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