RE: appsetup.exe

  • From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:57:40 -0500

The .exe extension isn't an issue here.  What's at issue is after a
script is added to jaws and jaws activates that script does jaws exhibit
any malware behavior that jaws didn't exhibit before that script was
installed and activated.  

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:49
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: appsetup.exe

Do scripts have to be installed as executibles?  Can't they be
installed as .jss and .jsb files?  Perhaps, the .exe is just to
extract them.  I admit I'm a bit ocnfused by this thread.

Alex M

On 3/4/11, DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You're U.S.D.A. and I'm D.O.D. and you're not under what used to be
> called N.M.C.I. and what's now called C.O.S.C.  If you have been
> documenting the software and configuration changes you have been doing
> on systems and that documentation has been seen and continues to be
seen
> by your supervisors and your supervisors have not yet told you to stop
> doing your own upgrades then you're in no danger of loosing your job
for
> this activity.  The admin types have higher powers than the developer
> types too.  With what was N.M.C.I. and now is C.O.S.C. there were
three
> classes of machines created.  Top was admin where you key your user
name
> in with an .adm suffix; then there was developer where you used a .dev
> suffix to access a developer account, then there was N.M.C.I. which
had
> no suffix on your user name.  Everyone with a developer account also
has
> an N.M.C.I. account but not everybody with an N.M.C.I. account has a
> developer account.  The admins are off in their own world separate
from
> the normal users and are able to do more than developers.  Hope this
> helps, and I hope you never live long enough to come under N.M.C.I.
> control.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
> Susan - Kansas City, MO
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:35
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: appsetup.exe
>
> I have a U.S.D.A. employee. I just installed Jim's scripts for
Eclipse.
> I have admin rights to update JAWS. Am I doing something wrong? Each
> time JAWS has an update it must be tested in Beltsville, Maryland
before
> we are given permission to use it. Losing my job is not very high on
> things that I want to do (grin).
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:02 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: appsetup.exe
>
> I wouldn't hold my breath on FS doing that.
> it took the government telling FS that they would drop sells if
> remote was not in the software. Took them 6 months get that feature
> right for use and that was after a new release. So that year was 2
> version releases.
> When it comes down to a few people they move slow and when threatened
> with lose of total income they do it now.
> Just like the winamp scripts. Took them 3 versions before they put
> them in script package for jaws.
>
> At 09:00 AM 3/4/2011, you wrote:
>>Thanks, my employer bought jaws for windows which needs to be labeled
>>more accurately as jaws for windows word processor's edition.  The
>>appsetup.exe and jsx jaws script exchange when added then turn jaws
for
>>windows into jaws for windows programmer's edition.  This is critical
>>because as of two days ago I was presented with a Hobson's choice.  To
>>understand it, you need to understand that even for
>>programmers/developers with dev accounts that group of people is only
>>allowed to have NMCI approved software on their systems.  For software
>>to get approved, it has to go through a blackbox testing procedure
> which
>>costs lots of dollars and will only be done if many people will be
> using
>>the software packages in question.  These two jaws add-ons will be
used
>>by too few people to make the blackbox testing worthwhile so it won't
>>get done and the software packages in this context will never get
>>approved.  When unapproved software is found on a user's computer,
they
>>loose that computer system and they also loose their job.  That nearly
>>happened to a lady who is working with us on the project I've been
>>assigned and a Tier three technician installed the software on her
>>machine.  What will be done if D.O.D. requests it is freedomscientific
>>will install the latest version of jaws script exchange and
> appsetup.exe
>>in its next version of jaws for windows for D.O.D. and that next
> version
>>of jaws for windows will go through testing and once approved be put
on
>>all machines needing speech screen reader services.  All of this takes
>>time which means I won't be doing any development on the current
> project
>>but may do development on future projects given packages become
>>available and work as advertised.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme,
> James
>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:10
>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: appsetup.exe
>>
>>Hi,
>>If you get the JAWS Scripts Exchange, you will get some free scripting
>>utilities in the zip folder of that package after you install. Check
> the
>>JAWS Scripting category on http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org.
>>
>>Jim.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DaShiell,
>>Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:40 AM
>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: re: appsetup.exe
>>
>>Is appsetup.exe the only free jaws for windows development add-on in
> use
>>these days or do other add-on packages exist which a modern and real
>>development environment ought to have installed?
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