um, first... wrong thread. Second, I don't think that's the jim Bill was refering too. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: Marvin Hunkin To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Re: accessible math Hi Jim. could i have your spreadsheet, which gives calculations of how to size and spacing and align controls on a visual basic form. if so, could you e-mail it to me today, if you can find it. got a final test soon for my programming class and want to get this nailed, so it reads well with jaws and looks visually appealing to the sighted user. cheers Marvin. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dunleavy To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:38 AM Subject: Re: accessible math Hi, I wouldn't care as long as there is an option to see the original Math Latex. If I remember correctly, Wikipedia does that. --Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Fw: accessible math Hi, Can someone please help this person? This could potentially help some people. Jim James D Homme, Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "The difference between those who get what they wish for and those who don't is action. Therefore, every action you take is a complete success,regardless of the results." -- Jerrold Mundis Highmark internal only: For usability and accessibility: http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ ----- Forwarded by James D Homme/Contractor/Highmark on 11/20/2008 11:26 AM ----- "Maldonado, Jill" <jmaldonado@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: w3c-wai-ig-request@xxxxxx 11/20/2008 11:16 AM To w3c-wai-ig@xxxxxx cc Subject accessible math I am a web producer for The College Board. The College Board is a not-for-profit membership association whose mission is to connect students to college success and opportunity. We are always trying to improve the accessibility of our web site and have recently started using Math Latex to generate math images for the sample PSAT questions we post on our site. My question to you is, does it make any difference if all the values and variables and symbols are images as long as they are alt-tagged? For instance, there may be cases where we would use Math Latex to generate an image for "-2", so that we can alt-tag it as "negative 2" and then in that context we might also use Math Latex to generate an image for "2", so we can provide visual consistency for other users (since of course the numbers that are images LOOK different from the numbers that are not). In your opinion, should we avoid using images for math equations unless we absolutely need to, or is it okay as long as everything is alt-tagged? I thank you for your help!