yes... that is why I added the word styled...don't you and another person get it, it was an explanation of how the environment... looked in audio translation, and responded.
I understand that it wasn't "dos", although for those machines still using it, what is the bloody CMOS programmed in? there has to be a structure/language of some sort/type there for it to do anything
and kens explanation along with something else said earlier I believe explains the "how" of the BIOS being read out
the double talk lt I had was on the serial port *sigh* will you get off the dos thing ! ken gets it, trouble gets it, wake up the rest of you please! inthaneelf----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: RE: accessible bios setup:thoughts?
Inthane, that might be true, but it didn't do so from a dos environment, ok?Dos was not in existence on the CPU when the bios was running, but it's completely imaginable that there were some opcodes folks could use to manipulate bios values externally, for example. Actually, it's more imaginable that folks could simply poke a special ram address, which would then trigger certain things to happen such as structures being exposed and so on, but that would be highlyvendor specific. Take care, Sina -----Original Message-----From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The ElfSent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:57 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: accessible bios setup:thoughts?as I have said, excuse me it seems to be a dos like environment and yes the thing was read by jaws for dos, like it or not, I was there and the blinkingthing worked. bloody ells! inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: accessible bios setup:thoughts?what? jaws for dos (running under dos) could read the bios? The bios is ran before the computer boots into dos, windows, linux, bsd, unix, whatever. You can interact with it's interupts if you are in real mode, but I don't see how it's possible to get to the bios that way. On 4/18/2011 7:23 PM, The Elf wrote:hmmm, and it pops up again!a long time back my first comp had windows 311, and then win 95,jaws 3.1,jaws for dos, and an external doubletalk lt synthesizer on it, and Ifound that I could read the bios when it was brought up from the jaws fordos and the synthesizer. seemed that the bios used the onboard autoexect.bat and/or the config.sys files when it booted or at least ran them since this is where the entries for the jaws for dos were kept back then, and I believe the synthesizer was as well. you might try digging heavily into how the bios operates in newer computers and see what you can find out along those lines. HTH, elf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: accessible bios setup:thoughts?Hello all: I will be getting a desktop in the near future and I want to be able towork my way through the bios and configure everything like I want (raid,etc). Have any of you found a way that can be used for someone across the net to work with you? I have a friend who said he would help, and I couldpoint the webcam at the screen, but that's really hard if not impossibleto read from the glow of the screen. Are there other solutions? I have a male - male VGA port setup. Could I possibly somehow set it upto stream the video from the computer to something that I could transmitacross the net? this sounds like a cool little project, I'm just notsure where to begin. I'd think Linux would be a lot easier to write thisfor. -- Thanks, Ty __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind-- Thanks, Ty __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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