Re: XML DEVELOPMENT

Good Luck with the XML. I do not understand how you would use TextPad and 
Visual Studio together but if you can get done what you want using TextPad or 
another Text Editor you will save yourself allot of time learning to use Visual 
Studio with a Screen Reader.
Rick USA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LU OGBE 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:07 PM
  Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT


  Rick,

  Apologies for not being clear enough. I am only just starting to learn XML 
and have 3 months before my exams. So I am doing research so I can find the 
most accessible route to take as I have very limited time.

  I think I will try text pad and use visual studio 2008 as my IDE. I believe 
there are scripts for visual studio and help documents for VI users online.

  When I become more knowledgeable and run into problems I'll give a shout. 

  Thanks for all your suggestions.

  Regards,

  LU



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: RicksPlace 
    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:43 AM
    Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT


    Note: In Visual Studio type applications you would use a Schema for the XML 
File to validate it either during editing or at run-time if I am reading it 
correctly. In other words, the Notepad style XML Editor would then use the 
Schema to check while you type and you would have Intellisense and all that 
jazz while you type. You also might be able to generate code over your xml file 
automatically using the schema but I'm not sure about that. This is all for VS 
2008 flavors. The process is slightly diferent for the VS 2005 versions. 
    You can also automatically generate xml files from other file types 
including a Sql Database. This is an area I have touched on in the current 
project I am working on but have not dug into yet. It does look pretty cool 
because it is the backbone, the xml, for many Internet objects including RSS 
Feeds and the like.
    Rick USA
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: RicksPlace 
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:23 AM
      Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT


      Hi: I don't think there is a application that will do what I think you 
are trying to do. Let me see if I am guessing right. You want to be able to add 
data to a xml file by entering it into things like TextBoxes or picking from 
DropDown Lists and have that data formatted into an xml file as you add, change 
or remove items. Does that sound like what you are trying to do? Or, are you 
just trying to find a application to validate the xml to make sure you have 
opening and closing tags? If you want to go beyond just having opening and 
closing tags like making sure they are in the right order and nested correctly 
you need to use a diferent approach.
      Rick USA
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: The Elf 
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:19 AM
        Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT


        you might also take a look at note tab there is a link to it off my 
grab bag site (URL under my name)

        they may have included that, and if not it's very screen reader 
friendly, and its scriptable. 

        HTH,
        inthane
        proprietor, The Grab Bag, 
        for blind computer users and programmers
        http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
        Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
        "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
        www.alacorncomputer.com
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: D!J!X! 
          To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:03 PM
          Subject: RE: XML DEVELOPMENT


          y google it and just try it out to see, I don't think it would hurt 
anything. If it works good, if it doesn't, o well... I'm not sure if it works 
with xml, but you might want to check out something like Notepad++ or TextPad 
and see if they do any xml validation/checking for you...

          HTH, D!J!X!

           

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          From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LU OGBE
          Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:50 PM
          To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT


          D!J!X!,

          Well I think I will just have to go with note pad. I was just doing 
some research for my course as we will be doing some XML this year and my 
lecturer recommended something called XML SPY editor. And I am not sure if that 
is compatible with JAWS 9.

          Thanks for all your suggestions.

          Regards,

          Lu


            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: D!J!X! 
            To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:58 PM
            Subject: RE: XML DEVELOPMENT


            I personally just use notepad, i mean since it's something you 
create yourself and that the tags are not set in stone, i guess the only 
advantage an editor would have is to make sure that each tag you create and 
open has a closing tag, or it would just make sure you stick to the rules for 
xml, but other than that, not much there i can see. What exactly are you 
looking for in the editor?

            D!J!X!




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            From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LU OGBE
            Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:39 PM
            To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: XML DEVELOPMENT


            Hello,

            Please can anyone recommend an XML editor or IDE which is 
compatible with JAWS 9? Thanks in advance.

            Regards,

            LU
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: The Elf 
              To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:34 AM
              Subject: Re: Advanced Development Course


              Hi, 

              I don't have the answers to your current questions, but having 
done a lot of college courses, (I was one light semester away from an A S 
degree), always keep in mind that though you should always try to use the 
required software, it's up to the school and instructors to make the class 
accessible to you!, not the other way around. 

              what is the use of that first application? 

              and, several of those second applications seem to be types of 
Linux based server software's, if so,  there are several others than those you 
mentioned that are accessible, and a few with speech applications built into 
the kernel. if I am right, let us know and I or one of the others can guide you 
to them

              remember, be nice, but be firm with instructors, and don't be 
afraid to solicit aid from the Disabled Students Center if you have one, and/or 
the dean of students and the Dean of facility if you need to.

              HTH, 
              inthane
              proprietor, The Grab Bag, 
              for blind computer users and programmers
              http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
              Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
              "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
              www.alacorncomputer.com
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: LU OGBE 
                To: programming-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:58 PM
                Subject: Advanced Development Course


                Hello,

                I am in my final year at university and I am taking a 
development course. I have a few questions as I have been instructed to 
download the following application by the course tutor;

                - Altova XML Spy editor

                My questions are;

                - Is this program accessible with JFW 9?
                - Where can I get a user guide?
                - Is there a more accessible alternative?

                Also I have been told to download one of the following 
application servers;
                a.. Resin

                a.. Tomcat 

                a.. Sun Application Server 
                a.. 
                a.. Cape Clear 6 

                a.. Systinet WASP 

                a.. BEA WebLogic 
                a.. 
                a.. IBM WebSphere. 


                My questions are basically the same as above;
                - What is an application server?
                - Which of the above is the most accessible?
                - Which of the above is easiest to use?

                Thanks in advance.

                Regards,

                LU

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