RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
- From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:19:57 -0500
Ken,
Have you taken a look at the FireVox self-voicing plug-in for FireFox? I'm
told it's both fast and very nice and, of course, open source.
cdh
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:01 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
Your correct but the point is if you create a virtual buffer in a better
compiled language you won't find it so slow. I know this because I have
been playing with web content lately and I can tell you that what they do in
Jaws is just short of carving the bible using a chisel and the face of a
mountain.
Now with that said as you will probably jump up and down and say Pearl is
not compiled and will rocket through web content fast as well. This is true
but it is made for Text manipulation and I would rather write with pearl and
Window-eyes then this mess jaws has.
Maybe Gw will pay some of us to help Window-eyes catch up with jaws heck I
might write a few just for a free version of Window-eyes if they would give
it to me snicker.
ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:37 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
Jaws works slow in web apps not because its scripting language is slow, but
because it needs to re-create its virtual buffer on every change on that web
app, and of course that if the current page is big, it takes much time.
But not the Jaws scripts do that, but the core of Jaws.
And the core of the web browser, of course. Even without Jaws, a very big
page, or one that uses much Javascript is harder to be used, but this is not
seen very well when using a mouse.
It is cool if Window Eyes will offer good support for scripting in more
languages, because it might be easier to find documentation for VB script,
or Perl script than for the Jaws' language.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
>
>
> I disagree with this when you start trying to make some really cool
> functionality for example making web browsing better speed is important.
> Just go to some really large pages with jaws and see what happens. So the
> faster you can crunch text the better. I can't wait to code stuff in lisp
> for window eyes cackle.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:58 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
>
> C++ would definitely be faster. IL may be slower the first time
> executed, since a compilation process occurs then. Thereafter, IL will
> generally be faster than an interpreted language. For the purpose of
> scripting a screen reader, however, I think speed is less important than
> other factors.
>
> Jamal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:27 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
>
> That's what I've read also Jamal:
> Would either IML produced by Visual Studio or Compiled code produced by
> something like C++ run faster than a Script on Windows machines?
> I have to think Compiled code would be faster and guessing IML would be
> faster as well.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:22 PM
> Subject: RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
>
>
> Windows installations typically include support for running VBScript and
> JScript programs as part of the Windows Script Host.
>
> Jamal
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:20 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: WindowEyes Getting Script Language
>
> Hi,
> What compiler or interpreter is a Windows computer likely to have out of
> the
> box? I ask because anyone who would want to make WindowEyes scripts would
> want to possibly distribute them to others.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
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