Re: Where should I share Rational Rose scripts?

Hello again -- Thanks for the clarification, and I would add that 
program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx is a list for blind programmers, focusing mainly on 
programming on and for windows.
And yes, IBM is to be commended for making some of its software accessible. 
But there's always room for improvement.
Now if I sound like I'm not familiar with RR, I am not, except that I know 
it's a UML modeling tool (right?).  Maybe eventually I will look into using 
it if I work on something that requires it.
Thank you for your efforts. And I think you may have more response on 
program-l than programmingblind, as there is a larger number of blind 
professionals on that list and not too many students.  Also, there is at 
least one sighted person on list that used to work for Microsoft to pass 
info between the list and Microsoft about accessibility. He no longer works 
for M$ but is still subscribed. Happy modeling.
--le


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Delaunay Christophe" <christophe.delaunay@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:34 AM
Subject: RE: Where should I share Rational Rose scripts?


Hi,

Thanks for your response in which you wrote:
[q]
>so you are saying you have not developed screen reader scripts, but
rather
>RR scripts that lend themselves to screen reader accessibility --
right?

[ChD]
Yes I do. The main reason for this is that even though I sometimes use
NVDA, I am not as proficient in python as I should to write adaptation
modules for NVDA with RR. Moreover, although I have a basic knowledge
about jaws scripting, such an approach would not allow people using
screen readers other than jaws to use these scripts.

[q]
>I think your experience could be useful, if for no other reason, to
give
>sighted persons guidelines on how to write  RR scripts that can be used
by
>visually impaired coworkers.

[ChD]
Not so sure because it seems that some people from IBM are really
acquainted to enhance the overall accessibility of their products. And
even for RR, they already did a little bit of it by writing a script
called "class wizard". This script is definitely useful as is for blind
people who need to add new classes to their class diagrams.

[q]
>But beyond that, it might also prove a good foundation for software
that
>can translate general RR scripts into more accessible forms.

[ChD]
In fact, after a few tests, it clearly appeared to me that the tool
itself is quite accessible through its really complete COM interface and
through its scripting language. The sole problem for screen reader users
is that when the tool comes out of its box, it does not provide
alternative rendering and only a few useful controlling tools, (merely
the class wizard only).

Indeed, my scripts do not deal directly with accessibility. They only
provide alternate rendering or controlling tools.

[q]
>I don't know where you can share your findings.  Are you subscribed to
>program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ?

[ChD]
Sorry, I am not yet.

[q]
>I believe there are some RR users there.

[ChD]
Many thanks for this advice. I'll check it up on occasion. However, I
really think that my scripts are useful for blind people using RR only
but they are definitely not bringing new concepts or useful features for
sighted people. In other words, they only make use of APIs that already
exist in the tool but are not often used yet in this manner.

Have a nice day. Chris D
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