Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming tutorials

Elf and others,

Is there a blind programming wiki? I would be happy to donate some
space on the Sodbeans wiki, if that interests folks, since our tools
are dedicated to blind programming anyway.

Stefik

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think Jim homme had the last full set of files of the site, but I rather
> doubt he still has them its been over a year I think.
>
> I'll ask him if he doesn't pop up here soon
>
> elf
> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
> www.alacorncomputer.com
> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
> for blind computer users and programmers
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
> tutorials
>
>
>> The problem is the site needs to be dedicated to it.  If we have a portion
>> of  the site here and there we will have what we have now.  What I will do
>> even if it means I put it up on my Amazon server is dedicate the entire
>> site
>> to it and make it a wiki based one.  If Jamal already has this set up I
>> don't want to re-work it.  If though people want to see this site back I
>> will purchase one of the available web pages and if someone has all the
>> old
>> stuff put it up instantly and change it over to a wiki slowly the way it
>> should have been done.  If no one has anything to work from then I guess I
>> can start fresh.  Unless again someone else is already doing this.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:31 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>> tutorials
>>
>> Hi,
>> If you'd like to assist wherever possible, I can maybe help you bring the
>> site back.  I have a site up at www.raeder24.org, and it is there for many
>> different purposes, but the first and foremost of which is to help the
>> blind
>> community.  If you have any of the content left over from the blind
>> programming site, You can by all means send it on, and I'll dedicate a
>> page
>> to it.  In other words, Raeder24 and blind programming can become one if
>> you
>> want to.  We are always willing to help in these matters.  Let me know.
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:07 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>> tutorials
>>
>> ok, I skipped a few posts on this line due to some troubles, a note here
>> the
>>
>> former owner did this, switched to a wikki and that is when the blind
>> programming site went flat on its nose then we lost the site and then the
>> site name
>>
>> I will assist where possible, but I have to wonder if this try will do any
>> better than the first one did?
>>
>> up to you folks, just wanted to let these facts be known.
>>
>> elf
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Wright"
>> <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>> tutorials
>>
>>
>>> Definitely no deficiency, but it requires Jamal to handle putting all the
>>> content online himself. Same for Elf with his site. This way the
>>> community
>>
>>> can directly effect the site's content, which will probably lead to more
>>> relevant and up to date information. Swell idea, I think.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2010 10:02 PM, qubit wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm coming to this thread late, but what about jamal's
>>>> nonvisualdevelopment.org site?
>>>> It sounds like it does all the things people want.
>>>> Or is there a deficiency?
>>>> --le
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ken Perry"<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:52 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>>>> tutorials
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will talk to  the people who can say yes but I think APH will give
>>>> blind
>>>> programming a permanent home if people think it's a good idea.  We could
>>>> run
>>>> the email list from there in fact we could run multiple and we could
>>>> have
>>
>>>> a
>>>> droople page where everything is kept. The same people that work on it
>>>> now
>>>> could do what little they can do an we could all share the
>>>> responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> ken
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
>>>> McBride
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:28 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>>>> tutorials
>>>>
>>>> I think it's the only way to go, Ken. Drupal is powerful enough to
>>>> host anything from a simple website to a large online community,
>>>> accessible both in terms of its administration&  useability,&  is
>>>> perfectly suited for something like this.
>>>>
>>>> I've partnered w/a web developer friend of Mine, Elise Lonsdale,&
>>>> used drupal to make
>>>> http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org
>>>> We've found it to be a rewarding venture in terms of the way Drupal
>>>> works. It does have somewhat of a steep learning curve initially, but
>>>> I think that's the same w/all web development. Elise says it's a lot
>>>> easier than other CMS's she's worked with. My vote is, if u can get
>>>> it, we should do it.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/4/10, Ken Perry<whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand why we don't get a droople page set up.  If people
>>>>> are
>>>>> interested I will talk to APH about hosting a true droople site for
>>>>> blind
>>>>> programmers. I would end up being the one choosing editors so I could
>>>>> let
>>>>> any number of you guys edit the page.  It would be done with the simple
>>>>>
>>>> wiki
>>>>
>>>>> language and would be easy to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>>
>>>>> ken
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 6:46 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>
>>>>> alright, sounds great, as I said in my post, I would do the work, but
>>>>> my
>>>>> time is getting squeezed out of existence, adding one page link will be
>>>>> no
>>>>> trouble, its the maintenance and such that would wring me out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll send you a blanked body page so all the color and other stuff
>>>>> matches
>>>>> the site, and you just fill in the body, I usually use H2 headers for a
>>>>> section like changing from the C section to the C++ one, and h3 for sub
>>>>> divisions within a section myself, but as long as it's navagateable its
>>>>> great.
>>>>>
>>>>> elf
>>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alex Midence"<alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, Elf,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be willing to write the page.  I can send it to you and you
>>>>>> could link it to your site.  I don't have website hosting at the
>>>>>> moment or I'd do it.  It would make much more sense to place it in a
>>>>>> frequented site like yours or the blind developers' site though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could structure it by giving each language a heading with links to the
>>>>>> corresponding tutorials in an unordered list.  Make it quick to
>>>>>> navigate that way.  Would also make sense to link any editors, ide's
>>>>>> and compilers within it as well so it's a one-stop experience.  I
>>>>>> think this would make for a flexible format because if someone wants
>>>>>> to let us know about a link to tutorials for a language we don't have,
>>>>>> all we have to do is add a heading for it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex M
>>>>>> ps  There's another Alex out here somewhere.  Figured I'd sign with my
>>>>>> last initial to keep confusion to a minimum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/2/10, The Elf<inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if someone will update and send me the page I will add it to my site,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> don't have the time right now to do decent updating on the grab bag
>>>>>>>
>>>> since
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have to have the beta version of my pencil and paper RPG game ready
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> roll
>>>>>>> in a few months and am short on useable time as it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> elf
>>>>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>>>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>>>>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>>>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Homme, James"<james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:09 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Where did the blind programming site go?: was:
>>>>>>> programming
>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Go up to http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org or the Elf's grab bag
>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamal, I can pull information from this thread together and send to
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the FAQ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Homme,
>>>>>>> Usability Services,
>>>>>>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
>>>>>>> Internal recipients,  Read my accessibility blog. Discuss
>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>> here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
>>>>>>> McBride
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:04 PM
>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: Where did the blind programming site go?: was: programming
>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blindprogramming.com seems like it's dead. This thread about
>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>> &  stuff is good, but it remains on this list. Any possibility we can
>>>>>>> get a wiki or something in which to store this info?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Change the world--1 deed at a time
>>>>>>> Jackie McBride
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