Done this Alex. Will report back on my findings. From Chris H in Derbyshire E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net. If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you. On 12/10/2010 04:08, Alex Midence wrote:
latest update: Monkeyed with vs2010 some more today and discovered a few things. Disabling uia and not allowing the start page to be the first thing that pulled up was a bad idea. The app became pretty much inaccessible or something. Restoring defaults took care of that. I then turned loss of focus alert on and smart word reading off in jaws verbosity settings. Then, after a few more crashes, I figured out that what it didn't like, and I think this is Jaws, was that I'd use the jaws cursor to explore the screen triggering all sorts of things with mouse hovers. I've kept my hands off the jaws cursor and haven't had any more crashes. Weird. Wonder if I can turn off the feature that activates on mouseover and just have the onclick stuff on. Alex M On 10/11/10, Alex Midence<alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Glad you're having a better time of it hthan me. Yes, your machine is faster. I have windows xp on a 2 gb ram machine which is like 1.8 ghz. It's from 2006. If you're running a more recent operating system, you could be having better results. Also, if you are using NVDA with VS 2010 you may be having different results. Re you using the c++ environment? If I'm doing something wrong, I want to figure it out because I would like to be ale to use this IDE. It's a mainstream IDE which I'm likely to encounter in clases and jobs in future so it behooves me to get familiar with it if possible. NVDA was what made the dreamspark site usable for me. I only switched back to jaws after clicking the download link. Did NVDA label the link for you? It just said clickable to me. I assumed it was the download link and it's what it was. One day, I may make the change to NVDA full time. Not ready yet though, too set in my ways, I suppose and Jaws works good with the stuff I use it for at work. Office 2007 is a big deal for me right now and nvda didn't work well with powerpoint and some parts of word but this is getting off topic. Alex M On 10/11/10, chris hallsworth<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Alex. Come on, it's not that bad! I use NVDA all the time and Dreamspark works brilliantly with it! Also, when I installed 2010 it took a while but not "a long while" like you said. Maybe it's your machine though because I have a dual core processor and 4GB of RAM which probably helps. Hey, I've not had Visual Studio crash on me yet! From Chris H in Derbyshire E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net. If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you. On 11/10/2010 10:07, Alex Midence wrote:Be advised, the Dreamspark site has a ton of javascript on it that Jaws doesn't pick up well. I had to use NVDA and Jaws. I'd use Jaws for one thing and then turn it off and pop NVDA on for another. After you verify, to actually download, you will want to select either web or download manager. If web, move down to the unlabeled clickable object following disabled sign up and verify buttons. Get your mouse to click on it with NVDA and you are in business. Oh, yeah, it must be done in I.E not Firefox. Apparently, it doesn't like Firefox, surprise surprise. Once you get it downloaded and installed, though it's smooth sailing till vs2010 crashes on you. Then, it's hairpulling, desk pounding and swearing and all that. Oh, and when you run the installation, go out for a beer and come back. It takes a while. Have fun. Alex M On 10/9/10, Jared Wright<wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:http://www.dreamspark.com/ You will need to register with Microsoft and verify your status as a high school or college student at an eligible education institution. And, I don't know if this was just a typo on the OP's part, but they have far more than 2005 professional. IN fact, Visual Studio 2010 professional is there for the taking, as well as a lot of other handy development tools if you are wanting to develop in the Microsoft eco system. On 10/09/2010 05:33 PM, Alex Stone wrote:Chris, how do I get hold of this? Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 07 October 2010 21:10 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Visual Studio Professional update Hello all. As part of Microsoft's Dreamspark program, they are offering would you believe Visual Studio 2005 Professional. When I was using the Express editions, I felt it worked really well with screen readers. 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