RE: Visual Studio 2010 Professional Edition

  • From: "Manish Agrawal" <manish10@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:42:36 +0530

When the errors window pops up and gets focus for the first time, press alt
+ W, H to hide the errors window and it will stay hidden for a long time-
until you bring it up manually with a compile or debug command. 
I usually bring up the error window with ctrl+w,e and press alt+w, h first
thing when I start editing a file to get rid of this menace.

However, as you continue to work with 2010, you will realize that the errors
window is perhaps the smallest problem and it is definitely by far not the
only one.Some of the problems I continuously run into with both NVDA and
jaws 11 and 12 include:
- jaws stops reading all the menus and right click pop-ups suddenly for no
reason and no amount of screen refresh, jaws restart etc. seem to fix it.
The problem is fixed only with a machine restart.
- nvda doesn't recognize collapsed regions on the editor window, so, I am
forced to expand everything and not use this very useful feature.
- both jaws and nvda hang when the first break point or exception is hit
while debugging a Silverlight project. The current workaround I have for
this is that before hitting f5 for debugging, I turn off jaws with ins+f4
and start nvda. Then press f5 to start debugging that hangs nvda. Now I
restart jaws with another shortcut and continue debugging normally.
Somehwere during debugging nvda comes back alive and I need to turn it off.
Needless to say it is a frustrating cycle but the only one that reliably
works for me currently.
- sometimes nvda doesn't read the editor text during debugging.
- The latest code branch of nvda errors out on starting vs 2010 because of
some bug in the new vs 2008 scripts in nvda.
- nvda doesn't read the watch and locals windows.
- The BIGGEST problem I have: both jaws and nvda develop chatter: read all
the hints/highlights that VS is throwing at the developer. So, while typing
a plain line of code, I am bombarded with random suggestions of putting ")"
";" "}" etc. and apparently these suggestions blink on the screen, which
means that jaws thinks it is new text every time it blinks and keeps reading
it.

I am on windows 7 64 bit and you may see different behavior on XP and
windows 7 32 bit.

-Manish
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomal Tao
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Visual Studio 2010 Professional Edition

Hello,

I am using vs 2010  with jaws 11. The menus are accessible and also the code
editors. The largest problem for me is that the error windows get focus all
the time. I have not found out any method to prevent this.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: den 7 oktober 2010 10:05
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Visual Studio 2010 Professional Edition

Hello all.
I have just signed up for Microsoft DreamSpark (www.dreamspark.com), a 
service for students and former students to access free Microsoft 
software, from server operating systems to development tools. I see they 
offer Visual Studio 2010 Professional Edition.
My question is how accessible is this to the major screen readers, 
particularly JAWS Window-Eyes and NVDA.
Many thanks in advance.

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