RE: Visual Studio 2003
- From: dusty bray <dusty_bray@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:50:09 -0400
Yeah, thanks to John's search engine, i found your add ins, Inthane. i tried
the VS 2003 for Jaws 6 add in, which immediately solved the code editor
problem. However, my brother still found the IDE very frustrating.
Visual Studio is just so complex. As it is, there are a million different ways
of accomplishing the exact same tasks in VS; it's difficult for me to figure
out the keyboard equivalents for doing things the way i know to do them. i
finally just opened up Dev C++ and everything went smoothly. smile
So, this prompts me to ask another question which i probably should have asked
from the beginning: what language and IDE would you all recommend for
beginning blind programmers? i ask this not just to help my brother, but
because i am hoping to assist my university in starting up a programming course
specifically for the blind.
While i was at Kennesaw State University, a professor asked the SNF for a grand
to start a course for teaching blind students VB.NET. i thought this was an
excellent endeavor, but she was refused the grand. She could only find a few
blind students in the area that were even semi-interested, and the cost of
equipment would have been phenomenal. i suggested making it an online course
for people who already have their own machines with JAWS, and then there
wouldn't be any equipment or transportation costs. She said that the dean
would definitely support my plan. So now, the only major hurdle is identifying
good introductory material that would give blind students a little exposure to
programming.
i want to find something that will work smoothly with JAWS and, at the time,
provide skills that might be useful in industry. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
dusty.......
From: inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:06:00 -0700
there are sets of "add ins" for the VS 2003 version at my
grab bag sight, but there only for jaws 5 and 6 I do believe, using VS 2005
with
the scripts for it available on the grab bag would be better in some ways.
hth,
inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From:
John
Greer
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:09
PM
Subject: Re: Visual Studio 2003
not too certain about this, but I do know for a fact
there are Jaws scripts for Visual Studio 6 and Visual Studio 2005.
Whether or not either of those script sets will work for 2003 I am not
sure. And at the risk of sounding like an advertisement, you may also
want to try my website Blind Crawler and see what the search engine comes up
with.
JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at http://www.blindcrawler.com/
Also
be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon server at
http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/
There
will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon.
Administrator: John
Greer
Blind Crawler.com
----- Original Message -----
From:
dusty
bray
To: ProgrammingBlind@freelistsorg
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:59
PM
Subject: Visual Studio 2003
Hey everyone,
i know you guys will be able to give me
the best advice about this. (i almost started on a wild goose chase
for JAWS scripts, but thought better of it.)
i just installed Visual
Studio 2003 on my brother's computer so that i can introduce him to
VB.NET. i'm really surprised that JAWS behaves very well for selecting
controls and adding them to the form, but performs very badly everywhere
else. In the code window, it just keeps reading the path of the file
instead of the text at the cursor. In the properties window, it reads
the value repeatedly (i guess because it's actually refreshing, though i
can't tell visually).
How do you guys get around this problems?
Does anyone here use this version of Visual Studio, or should we be using
something more accessible?
Thanks so much for the
help,
dusty.......
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