Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:06:53 -0500
Ah, thanks jamal -- I didn't check the empowermentzone.
I'll check there as well.
Maybe the people starting the training project should do the same. Nothing
wrong with working on a group project, but it's good to have documentation
at hand.
Thanks again.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
Whether one logs in or not to NonvisualDevelopment.org would have no
effect. The default Drupal logg-in system is present, but it is not yet
something I have used -- everything is public. This sounds like a
browser history or bookmarking issue.
Have you tried the huge set of C# tutorials in the archive
http://EmpowermentZone.com/cnetdoc.zip
I think that link is found both on the C# page and the Documentation and
Training page.
Jamal
On Thu, 20 May
2010, qubit wrote:
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:23:11 -0500
> From: qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
> Hi there -- I don't know about a new project, but I am trying to find good
> intros to C# so I can do some work on existing C# opensource software -- i
> go to nonvisualdevelopment.org and follow the links around and find all
> kinds of links to downloads on msdn.microsoft.com, but I am looking for a
> tutorial -- or better yet, a summary or reference card of language
> features that I can use to learn the language quickly (I already know C++
> so I am not worried about learning the ssyntax).
>
> Following the maze of links the other day, I did find a tutorial, and was
> reading through it, experimenting with C#express as I went. I saved a
> link to this page in my favorites, but now when I try to go back to it, I
> get a page with no content. It's like it has been removed.
>
> Does anyone know why this happened?
> Where can I find a tutorial that won't vanish if I leave and come back
> later?
>
> I hate when things are going well except for unrelated environmental
> issues.
> Could this have something to do with not having logged into
> nonvisualdevelopment.org before accessing the page?
> If so I find it a nuisance to have to log in and renavigate to a page that
> takes 4 or 5 links to get to.
> Someone please comment if you know where a good accessible tutorial can be
> found. Thanks!
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RicksPlace
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> Hi Jacob: OK, I just installed C# Express. I think we might look at
> starting with a project that uses no DataBase.The idea here will be to get
> aquainted with the IDE and the use of the Form and some of the controls
> which have been mentioned. Also, we should look at how to work with Text
> Files since they are handy. After that we will build a second project just
> like the first one but one that uses a Database. We can use a DataTable in
> our first project if we want to do some binding to controls prior to
> adding a DataBase and perhaps some other methods to get familiar with how
> to get data into and out of UI Controls like ListBoxes, ListViews,
> TextBoxes and perhaps the use of some objects like the OpenFiledialog
> object or others. We will also do some work on laying out the UI of a Form
> manually and using a TableLayoutPanel. That sounds like a good place to
> start. If we can handle these technicals we will be able to add a DataBase
> tothe project and wire up our existing controls to use the DataBase. In
> fact, we will create our DataBase right in our application. How does this
> sound to you guys. We will do it in both vb.net and C#.net.
> We can forestall deciding on a DataBase until we get the basics down pat
> and are ready to expand into that arena. Then we can hash out which DB to
> start with and why. Now, tell me what you want to do so this is really
> your project and not just me building something that nobody cares about
> anyway.
> Rick USA
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jacob Kruger
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> Will just chime in here and say that the one reason I have and will
> sometimes use access databases is that on a user's machine, the file is
> really just a stand alone datasource which doesn't need an additional bit
> of software installed to run a database server.
>
> Alternatively, something like an XML file could be made use of, except
> it's easier to at least password protect data in an MDB file.
>
> Aside from that, I primarily work in C#, and would specifically like a
> bit more info on things like databinding grids, tree structures etc. in
> something like this.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> hi,
>
> the only thing is the sql full or express is free and people only
> have access if they get a certain version of office which is worth it imo.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RicksPlace
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> You use Access for a DB? OK, that is something I have not done but
> can look into using. Trying to download and install the Sql Server Express
> is a real pain to do from what I have seen. Lets wait to see if anyone
> else chimes in about the project and see what they are using. I downloaded
> and installed C# SP1 just in case there is a hard core CSharp guy out
> there. I can learn on the job when it comes to C# and A Access DB since
> all the design and most of the IDE and technicals will be very similar.
> That is one nice thing about working in any VS modules. Once you learn one
> language most all the objects and IDE Wizards and Dialogs will be the
> same. Only the language syntax will change for the most part.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> hi,
>
> that would be no.
> i have the express version and need to learn sql but have always
> used access to hold the data.
> we can go with the phone book idea and my thought may or may not
> be used.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RicksPlace
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> Sure, anything we can think of is doable. Do you have any data
> storage system like Sql Server Express or the Sql Compact Edition on your
> machine?
> If you installed the full Visual Studio you might have both
> available. If you installed an Express Edition you might have neither and
> that will be something to also look into. If there are several folks I
> would like to get everyone on the same page, or as close to it as possible
> with all our diferent machines, software and all that jazz before we start
> building a project. Also, do you have a project in mind or are you working
> on something? It is better to build something folks are actually
> interested in rather than just something to demonstrate technicals., you
> learn better and faster when things are relevant to you and you have an
> idea of where the project is going and what you want it to do.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Schulz
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> hi,
>
> i would prefer vb.net.
> could we include a tree list?
> i have part of this created and the main nodes are the
> letters of the alphabet in segments of three, then singles, then names
> starting with that letter.
>
> so the top node may be ABC, and expands to show A, B, C,
> vertically, then if you expand A, it shows your friends names like Alan
> Jackson, Andy Smith, etc. and selecting one refreshes a pane with their
> name, address, phone numbers, email, etc.
> I meant to continue this program but it got put on the shelf.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RicksPlace
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:03 AM
> Subject: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
>
>
> Hi: There have been a few folks who want to get started
> programming in either Vb.net or C#.net. If there is some interest in
> learning to work in one of these languages I will walk through designing a
> simple project and then work with any interested folks on building the
> project in either Vb.net, C#.net or both. If we do it on list the project
> will be in the archives and, or, anyone with an interest in the step by
> step tutorial can upload them to some online repository. If you are
> interested in this idea let me know and, if we get a couple of folks to
> walk through the lessons, I will start from scratch perhaps this weekend
> or Monday. I will have to download and install C# Express 2008 if you want
> to stick with that language but it can be done.
> If you have an idea for a project let me know. Otherwise I
> will just pick one like the PhoneBook Project I mentioned to get started.
> I will also post some links to articles, or post some of my own, related
> to the technicals we will be using so we can discuss them openly and
> answer questions. The idea will be to teach how to research technicals
> online, how to use the VS IDE with a screen reader and how to do a little
> vb or C# programming to process things like clicking a button or accessing
> a Data Storage File of some sort. Let me know what you think about this
> idea.
> Rick USA
>
>
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