RE: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
- From: Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:54:09 +0200
Rick:
I'm very interested!
But I'm a beginner, yep a complete beginner.
I would prefer C#.
This is also a great opportunity for me to learn Visual Studio.
I'm currently coding in Edsharp.
I also want to learn sql and probably much more.
I know the basic structure of a C# program and I have done some simple
coding of console applications.
You guys are miles ahead of me, I'm not sure I even know enough English to
follow along Smile!
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
Sent: 20. mai 2010 22:38
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
Hi Don: This is going to be a raw beginners tutorial project. Getting into
remote anything is light years beyond the scope of this project. When done
with this project What you want to do might be fun but it sounds like it
would require some external devices which I might not have access to. Heck,
I have never even done anything with a mobile application. For me that
sounds like fun but later.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Marang <mailto:donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
How about the application I have been failing to find time for? I
plan to create a simple, accessible PC application to act as a media DLNA
Remote Control. DLNA stands for Digital Living Network Alliance. It is a
little heard about standard that is in probably every networked device in
your home! In my home, I currently have the following devices that seem to
work with DLNA; All 3 Windows 7 computers, DirecTV R22 DVR, Playstation 3,
Nintendo Wii, and I believe even my Epson network printer may be able to be
told to print photos through DLNA. I have not checked this out yet, but
most smart mobile devices such as Android phones, IPhones and the iPad
should be able to perform most of these functions, especially the Controller
functions. What a cool remote that would make! There are several flavors
of DLNA devices, including a Server to Host media, Renderer to display /
play the media and a third class, a Controller to direct traffic. There are
also similar mobile device classes. I am interested in the last class,
since every controller is not accessible. Most of the time it is just
bundled in the same software as the rendering engine and displayed on the TV
screen. I also have reasonably priced software that runs in the background
of one of the computers in your house. It acts as a DLNA Server device on
your network and also transcodes a variety of formats so that is rarely
thought about. This functionality is primarily identical to what Windows
Media Player 12, with Windows 7, provides. The cool part is it reaches out
across the Internet to grab and serve up music and video from countless and
growing sources! For instance, if you select the PlayOn DLNA server, the
first or root level folder view will show all of it's current services.
Some of these include Hulu, YouTube, NetFlix (my favorite), Comedy Central,
CBS, Revision 3live streaming video and video podcasts. I have not been
able to do exahstive searches, but they are talking about adding a variety
of music sources as well.
The software needs to search the local network for server devices,
and display them in a list box or combo box. Once the server is chosen,
then the desired media is chosen in some sort of file / folder structure.
At last, another list view or combo box is needed to select where you want
the selected media played and a PlayNow button.
There are a variety of DLNA Open Source libraries that should handle
the complex network tasks. I have not had much time to check them out yet.
They are available for several languages. I was looking at Coherence Python
library. I was going to create the sinple interface in Python as well. I
do not know if the class libraries are as well behaved as .Net to allow mix
and matching. I am not sure such a large unknown is appropriate for a
learninhg / teaching application. But it is interesting!
Here is a link for some Open Source DLNA libraries:
http://elinux.org/DLNA_Open_Source_Projects
This will be ideal to control available whole house audio systems,
wireless speakers, home theater systems, send video to your X-Box /
Playstation 3 and more. My immediate plans are to make my DirecTV DVR
useful by playing Netflix movies for the whole family and to finally find
something interesting to play in the background, since my TV is on 24 hours
a day.
By the way, for this and future projects, I want to learn both C
Sharp and Python better.
Don Marang
From: RicksPlace <mailto:ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:12 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
Sure, anything we can think of is doable. Do you have any data
storage system like Sql Server Express or the Sql Compact Edition on your
machine?
If you installed the full Visual Studio you might have both
available. If you installed an Express Edition you might have neither and
that will be something to also look into. If there are several folks I would
like to get everyone on the same page, or as close to it as possible with
all our diferent machines, software and all that jazz before we start
building a project. Also, do you have a project in mind or are you working
on something? It is better to build something folks are actually interested
in rather than just something to demonstrate technicals., you learn better
and faster when things are relevant to you and you have an idea of where the
project is going and what you want it to do.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Schulz <mailto:b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
hi,
i would prefer vb.net.
could we include a tree list?
i have part of this created and the main nodes are the
letters of the alphabet in segments of three, then singles, then names
starting with that letter.
so the top node may be ABC, and expands to show A, B, C,
vertically, then if you expand A, it shows your friends names like Alan
Jackson, Andy Smith, etc. and selecting one refreshes a pane with their
name, address, phone numbers, email, etc.
I meant to continue this program but it got put on the
shelf.
Bryan Schulz
----- Original Message -----
From: RicksPlace <mailto:ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:03 AM
Subject: Vb.net or C#.net Tutorial Project
Hi: There have been a few folks who want to get
started programming in either Vb.net or C#.net. If there is some interest in
learning to work in one of these languages I will walk through designing a
simple project and then work with any interested folks on building the
project in either Vb.net, C#.net or both. If we do it on list the project
will be in the archives and, or, anyone with an interest in the step by step
tutorial can upload them to some online repository. If you are interested in
this idea let me know and, if we get a couple of folks to walk through the
lessons, I will start from scratch perhaps this weekend or Monday. I will
have to download and install C# Express 2008 if you want to stick with that
language but it can be done.
If you have an idea for a project let me know.
Otherwise I will just pick one like the PhoneBook Project I mentioned to get
started. I will also post some links to articles, or post some of my own,
related to the technicals we will be using so we can discuss them openly and
answer questions. The idea will be to teach how to research technicals
online, how to use the VS IDE with a screen reader and how to do a little vb
or C# programming to process things like clicking a button or accessing a
Data Storage File of some sort. Let me know what you think about this idea.
Rick USA
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