RE: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries

that's not the compiler's responsibility. It's yours, as the developer, to 
include it in your project, or at least the path to it.

The reason for that is because it's specific to you, and not part of the 
standard like the STL in c++, or standard IO in c, etc,
etc.

Take care,
Sina



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:27 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries

One last concern. liblouisutdml has Java bindings linked to it. 
Therefore it requires that the compiler be able to suppy jni.h and 
jni-md.h Does the Microsoft C compiler have these?

John

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 10:11:59PM -0600, qubit wrote:
> Hi Jamal --
> Thank you for hunting this one down.  I think the info will help list 
> members a lot.  I'm a bit relieved I was not the only one battling the 
> accessibility of those pages.
> I downloaded the installer from your previous mail ), and tried running it, 
> but it couldn't proceed until I install dotnet4.  So if I install dotnet4 
> and then the vs 10 express, then this latest C++ compiler, I should have 
> everything?
> 
> As for editing the path variable on windows, I usually do that in the 
> advanced tab of the system properties. There is a button for 
> changing/viewing environment variables, at least this works on XP.  I am 
> still learning windows7.
> 
> Happy hacking.
> --le
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> 
> 
> My information about the C++ compiler and the Windows SDK was based on
> this web page:
> 
> Development Resources in the Windows SDK
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff660763.aspx
> 
> An excerpt reads as follows:
> "The new Windows compilers and CRT for the x86, x64, and Itanium (IA64)
> operating systems are included in the Windows SDK and integrated into
> its command-line build environment. These compilers and CRT are the same
> as those that are included in Visual Studio 2010."
> 
> After installing the Windows SDK, however, I also could not find the C++
> compiler.
> 
> I then tried to download and install Visual C++ Express Edition, which
> is also supposed to include the command-line compiler.  It took about a
> half hour and some luck to start the download due to the inaccessibility
> of that web page!  To make it easier for others, I have now put a copy
> of the installer at
> 
> 
> 
> http://EmpowermentZone.com/vc_web.exe
> 
> 
> It is the type of installer that connects to a web source at runtime,
> rather than containing the components to install, itself, so one should
> get the latest directly from Microsoft even if the installer is obtained
> from the above link.
> 
> By default, the C++ compiler will be placed in this location:
> c:\program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\cl.exe
> 
> Instructions on registering Visual C++ 2010 Express are here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/express/support/regins/
> 
> It is probably not necessary to register if one is just using the
> command-line compiler rather than the IDE, but I am not sure.  Note that
> certain directories containing .dll files need to be on the Windows
> search path for cl.exe to work.  There is an option in the Windows Start
> Menu that sets the path appropriately at a command prompt, but this
> could also be done in other ways.
> 
> Jamal
> 
> 
> On 2/4/2011 4:55 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > This is great information. I have something in my Program Files (x86)
> > folder called Microsoft SDKs. It has a lot of exe files in its bin
> > directory. I don't see cl.exe but I do see lc.exe and also rc.exe Is the
> > compiler there somewhere? Is there a 64-bit version? The one I have has
> > an x64 directory, but it seems to be empty.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:52:39PM -0500, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> >> I looked into this, and did not find the C++ command-line compiler
> >> distributed with .NET 4, even though the C#, Visual Basic .NET, and
> >> JScript .NET compilers are distributed that way, located in the
> >> directory
> >> c:\windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319
> >>
> >> Based on web research, the C++ 2010 command-line compiler is included in
> >> the latest Windows SDK, downloadable from this page:
> >>
> >> Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4 -
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=6b6c21d2-2006-4afa-9702-529fa782d63b&displaylang=en
> >>
> >> Jamal
> >> On
> >> Fri, 4 Feb
> >> 2011,
> >> John J. Boyer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:00:40 -0600
> >>> From: John J. Boyer<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> >>>
> >>> This sounds good, but does .Net include the command-line compiler,
> >>> linker, etc.? My understanding is that with these tools we would be able
> >>> to create make and rc files and then just run them with a .bat file to
> >>> create either 32 or 64 bit versions of the libraries. Only some header
> >>> files would need to be changed, and this could be explained in a short
> >>> README file. Once we have the necessary files porting new releases
> >>> should be easy.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:25:25PM -0500, James Homme wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> I'd like to have the message that talks about this. According to my
> >>>> memory, Jamal wrote a utility that gets the .Net SDK files for you. 
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>> you can find it on nonvisualdevelopment.org. I'll dig around to see if 
> >>>> I
> >>>> saved that announcement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Homme,
> >>>> Usability Services,
> >>>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
> >>>> Internal recipients,  Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility
> >>>> here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:40 PM
> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi John -- Have you tried downloading it? I dropped it temporarily, but
> >>>> after a day of poking around on that site I concluded finding the
> >>>> executable
> >>>> is a nontrivial exercise for jaws.
> >>>> I'll go back again and look around, which may yield success as I 
> >>>> believe
> >>>> there was an internet problem last weekend with the weather.
> >>>> --le
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:47 AM
> >>>> Subject: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For the BrailleBlaster project we need to compile the liblouis and
> >>>> liblouisutdml libraries for various platforms. In looking at the source
> >>>> code for the Windows native libraries used by SWT I see that they use 
> >>>> cl
> >>>> nmake rc and I think link at the command line. There is also a .bat 
> >>>> file
> >>>> that can produce either 32 or 64 bit code. Unfortunately, there is no
> >>>> inndiccation of which version of the compiler they used. I've been
> >>>> trying to find the 2010 version of Visual Studio with the command line
> >>>> without success. Of course an earlier version will work if it is 
> >>>> capable
> >>>> of both architectures and can supply the jni.h header. Does anyone have
> >>>> a direct URL to download it?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think you need a Windows Live ID, regardless of what the
> >>>> Microsoft page says. That page is an example of a website with awful
> >>>> usability. This is a separate issue from accessibility. I wonder how
> >>>> they can get away with it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> John
> >>>>
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