RE: UML tool
- From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:59:26 -0500
Hi Listers,
What UML tool can be used with JAWS?
Susie Stanzel
Java programmer, United States Department of Agriculture
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:03 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: UML tool
Hi Rick.
UML is more than just flow charting.
Its more than just diagrams as well.
UML as a concept allows a software developer or team to design there
software right from requirements to use cases to class diagrams.
A UML modelling tool, and there are a number out there, allows the
software design to be shown in a graphical form which complies to a set
of rules. As you suggest most UML modelling tools allow for code
generation, in my experience this is class prototypes and stubs which
the developer then goes and fills in the blanks. Most can also "reverse
engineer, code in to a UML model. I even saw one tool which claimed you
could write sudo code in the model for each function and it would fill
in the function stubs for you. Personally this seams like a waist of
time to me.
In the team I work in we've been developing our software for nearly 4
years and our model currently stands at 25000 elements. That's because
we use it for everything.
Our customer requirements are captured in the model.
These link, using connections in our modelling tool to our derived
software requirements, which link to use cases, which links to component
designs which link to communication diagrams and class diagrams. Class
diagrams give a view on a particular set of classes, there functions,
members, how they interact with each other and so on.
In this way we can automatically see the impact of any changes, For
example if we want to change the way something works we would update the
use case and then be able to see what links to that use case so what
things may be effected by the change.
Now if I was working on my own, not in a team of sighted developers, I
probably wouldn't be using UML. However it is useable by blind people.
In the end UML is pretty much a defacto standard in most software
development teams so its another one of those things we just have to put
up with. It can be useful though, The project I work on is upwards of
100000 lines of C++. A project that size would be hard to manage with
out something like UML.
Just my thoughts.
Thanks.
Nick.
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
Sent: 06 May 2011 10:44
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: UML tool
Hi Inthane: I Googled UML just to see what it was about. It seems a
FlowChartting tool of sorts. Is that what it is or is there more to it?
What
features are the UML folks looking for?
I am just curious since I know how to plod around the VS IDE a little.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: UML tool
> *sigh* once again this is done in dot net, part appears to be done in
> vb.net and another section seems to be in C#.net
>
> inthane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:30 AM
> Subject: RE: UML tool
>
>
> Hi Elf,
>
> What language is this written in? I am really starting to do work in
Java
> and am very interested in being able to do things others can do with a
> snap of their finger.
>
> Susie Stanzel
> Programmer United States Department of Agriculture in Kansas City,
> Missouri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal
Mazrui
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:32 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: inthane
> Subject: Re: UML tool
>
> Hi Elf,
> If it's not a large archive, we found that the list could accept
> attachments. Otherwise, can you post it on a public URL on the Grab
Bag
> site?
>
> Jamal
>
>
> On 5/5/2011 5:45 AM, inthane wrote:
>> ok must have been to large for someone's filters somewhere along the
>> line, I'll set it up for ftp transfer tomorrow and let you grab it if
>> you still want it,
>> elf
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* E.J. Zufelt <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:31 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: UML tool
>>
>> Nope, didn't get it.
>>
>>
>> Everett Zufelt
>> http://zufelt.ca
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter
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>>
>>
>> On 2011-05-04, at 10:25 PM, inthane wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not entirely sure but it was being done in dot net, either
C#
>>> or VB or both
>>> I sent it to you, did you not get it?
>>> elf
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:*E.J. Zufelt <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> *To:*programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:36 PM
>>> *Subject:*Re: UML tool
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Do you know what language the tool was being developed in
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Everett Zufelt
>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 2011-05-03, at 4:16 PM, inthane wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have the files for a partially worked up UML tool someone
>>>> was fabricating and had gotten working, but it does need
more
>>>> work, would you like a copy.
>>>> the originator became to ill to continue and left it with
me
>>>> to distribute to anyone interested in working on it.
>>>> let me know,
>>>> elf
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:*E.J. Zufelt <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:*programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:43 AM
>>>> *Subject:*UML tool
>>>>
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if anyone knows of a UML tool that is
>>>> accessible with a screen-reader on Windows, OS X, or
gnome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Everett Zufelt
>>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>>>
>>>> Follow me on Twitter
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>>>>
>>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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