Re: UML tool

Hi:OK, so a UML diagram is like a FlowChart then. I would think that having some vision would make the process of turning UML into an accessible format and creating UML documents possible. For me, it might not be so doable since I couldn't see the UML to check out the Line connections nor the various boxes and other diagram tools. I also noted that MS used VISIO in at least one of their UML modules and VISIO was a real, huge, mess to try and script so it is also likely to be a mess to try and convert from and to some accessible format. Allot would depend on how far the previous author got in coding up the interface to the UML document considering the Lines and other Graphical entities used in standard UML diagrams. The concept seems straight forward enough but the problem would be the software used to create and process a UML Diagram, VISIO is frightening to think of, and if the various lines and graphical entities are already in place. It seems I remember reading, some time ago, that a application or whatever could be generated using a UML Diagram. Likely the Class or other tags since the diagram would likely not hold code itself. Also, there is likely support for generating UML diagrams from a Project itself. All these things would seem to be dependent on the software processing the UML. It could be quite a complicated project requiring sighted help to implement. Do you know what version of VS it was developed in and how far the original author got in his efforts? 
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: UML tool


Hi Rick,
My understanding is that those who want to do this need to be able to create the diagrams that get used to design software. I'm not sure if they need to take diagrams and turn them into something that can be consumed nonvisually or not. 

Jim

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: UML tool

Hi Inthane: I Googled UML just to see what it was about. It seems a
FlowChartting tool of sorts. Is that what it is or is there more to it? What
features are the UML folks looking for?
I am just curious since I know how to plod around the VS IDE a little.
Rick USA

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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: UML tool



*sigh* once again this is done in dot net, part appears to be done in
vb.net and another section seems to be in C#.net

inthane
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From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:30 AM
Subject: RE: UML tool


Hi Elf,

What language is this written in? I am really starting to do work in Java
and am very interested in being able to do things others can do with a
snap of their finger.

Susie Stanzel
Programmer United States Department of Agriculture in Kansas City,
Missouri

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:32 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: inthane
Subject: Re: UML tool

Hi Elf,
If it's not a large archive, we found that the list could accept
attachments.  Otherwise, can you post it on a public URL on the Grab Bag
site?

Jamal


On 5/5/2011 5:45 AM, inthane wrote:

ok must have been to large for someone's filters somewhere along the
line, I'll set it up for ftp transfer tomorrow and let you grab it if
you still want it,
elf

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    *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:31 PM
    *Subject:* Re: UML tool

    Nope, didn't get it.


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    On 2011-05-04, at 10:25 PM, inthane wrote:


    I'm not entirely sure but it was being done in dot net, either C#
    or VB or both
    I sent it to you, did you not get it?
    elf

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        *Sent:*Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:36 PM
        *Subject:*Re: UML tool

        Hi,

        Do you know what language the tool was being developed in

        Thanks,
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        On 2011-05-03, at 4:16 PM, inthane wrote:


        I have the files for a partially worked up UML tool someone
        was fabricating and had gotten working, but it does need more
        work, would you like a copy.
        the originator became to ill to continue and left it with me
        to distribute to anyone interested in working on it.
        let me know,
        elf

            ----- Original Message -----
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            *To:*programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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            *Sent:*Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:43 AM
            *Subject:*UML tool

            Good morning,

            I am wondering if anyone knows of a UML tool that is
            accessible with a screen-reader on Windows, OS X, or gnome.

            Thanks,
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