Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python

when you use eclipse you must understand 3 interesting concepts:
perspectives
views
and editors.

A perspective is a gui formed from views and editors which you can use to do developing.
Different perspectives has different views and editors.
For example there is a java ee perspective, a java perspective, a database developing perspective and a java debuging perspective. As you understand a perspective contains as many windows as you can use for a specific activity (developing, debuging etc).

With control + f6
and ctrl +f7
and ctrl + f8
you can move ciclic between views, editors and perspectives.
You will notice that there are "solution explorer" like windows in different perspectives, where the type of developing imposes it.
For example in my eclipse I have:
Project explorer when I do java ee developing,
package explorer when I do Java developing,
Php explorer when I do php developing.
These views and perspectives and editors are part of the plugins used for a specific language. So if something seems wierd to you try to change the plugin or the perspective in a plugin. Also some plugins offer multiples perspectives for the same task including different views and editors. Finaly I think you can build your own perspective with all windows you want to have for a development task.
best regards
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python


Oh, and the version of eclipse am meant to use/have here says the following in it's about dialogue box:
Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
Version: Helios Service Release 2
Build id: 20110301-1815


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ---------------

Subject: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python
  From: Jacob Kruger <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:58:06 +0200
    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ok, I do have the sound effect jaws scripts installed, and have been going through some other python tutorial material, and python itself makes enough sense to me, but eclipse seems really pretty much useless/pointless, aside from the fact that I might need to use it for a specific type of work that has had a bunch of plugins installed into eclipse.

I can sort of tell it to do things like create a project, but I would then sort of expect things like solution explorers, etc., but don't seem to find anything of any real interest here...?

I am also now planning to look at the following comparison between VS and eclipse interface, but they do, unfortunately mention diagrams, etc., so it's obviously targeting sighted guys:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse-visualstudio/?ca=dgr-btw01Eclipse-VS#ibm-content

Aside from that, EdSharp works perfectly well enough/fine for me with regard to editing python source, so might need to try figure out if can in fact implement these specific plugins without using eclipse - don't see why it shouldn't be possible since think the actual eclipse IDE plugins are more related to automatic code generation/wizards, etc., but will have to double check on that one.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has done much with things like eclipse and python combinations, or if, aside from intro material along with scripts, are there any other types of material related to getting used to the jumbled up interface that eclipse seems to make use of..?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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