Hi Andreas, It really depends on the person, too. I have found that most code is managable if I merely cursor in word sized chunks since the reader reads the word to the left of the cursor. And good variable names, slow speech settings and sometimes custom punctuation help, too. Because I use the cursor ctrl+left/right to read the code in nice chunks, I hate the fact that Eclipse stops on every darn case change even within an identifier name. There are also people who can read Braille and can afford a Braille display but that option is out for many blind folks. I am not sure how big a problem code reading is in general, but that is something I personally feel strongly about improving since it could easily be done, I think. The thing is, it is something that really doesn't belong in the screen reader, so dedicated tools are a real option here. And in langs like Lisp or list processing that reads right to left, really, speech is pretty weak, as I said. Regular expressions are another story, I need to cursor through them character by character, comment them very well or use the various Perl English modules to make them far nicer. Still, I far prefer homing in at structured bits of plain text by regexp searching a plain text document, as compared to using screen reader specific navigation. I am also a big fan of regexp for simple data processing overall, even in other langs than Perl. Another idea, howabout code folding that would be spoken by screen readers and you could easily expand or collapse the current level from the keyboard, optionally recursively. -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä (vtatila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila Andreas Stefik wrote: > Veli-Pekka, > Thanks so much. I'm running off the computer for a bit, but you have > some spectacular ideas in there that I could easily implement in my > tool. I'm going to hold onto this post, thanks! > > It sounds like, in short, getting the speech correct is absolutely > mission critical for the blind, would you folks consider that to be a > correct assumption? > > Andreas __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind