RE: The Cost Of Braille Displays
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:16:15 -0400
Yes but the new technology won't be out for another 2 years or so and when
it comes out they will probably have half screen and full screen displays
that will drive the cost right back up to where it is now. There might be
cheap one line displays but I doubt it.
ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:19 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The Cost Of Braille Displays
I've also read about another technology, more recent, that also was
supposed to be much cheaper to produce than the piso-electric solenoid
type of mechanism used in most displays. It would press the dots into a
sort of plastic, giving the impression that you were reading Braille on
plastic or paper. This particular tech was earmarked as a great
candidate for the ongoing search for the "the holy Braille" -- a full
page Braille display.
However, this is not really the point, and a cheaper technology will not
make the devices cheaper if governments keep on forking out astronomical
amounts for them. Not only govs but any large corporation for that matter.
But there are not only one manufacturer of such devices, but why don't
we see compettition then I ask. Simple, there must be a cartel at work,
where they all come together and make up a nice price. Once again the
consumer could pressurise them into asking fair prices. And that's what
we should be doing.
I wish I knew the answer to this, but the end result is that thousands
of people in developing world are deprived and in the developed world
tax payers end up paying more I presume. So who benefits really?
There's nothing wrong with asking a fair price, but there's everything
wrong with asking too much, and Idon't accept the argument that the
prices are justified -- it's just too much. It can be high, but not this
high.
On 10/15/2010 12:03 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> They have a captive market and buyers who have tax dollars to spend.
> The device is specialized and requires a specialized crew to
> troubleshoot. Add all taht together, especially the bit about the tax
> dollars, and you have a recipe for outrageous, unreasonable markups.
> Personally, I think it's disgusting to do this to a market of people
> who are often unemployed and have limited funds. I once read that the
> blind community suffers from an unemployment rate of about 75%.
> That's insane! Insane! Anyway, I know enough other blind people in
> my city who don't have jobs to give some credence to the figure.
>
> I once came across an article about a refreshable braille system that
> relied on tiny bits of compressed air and not necessarily pins to
> produce the dots. It was supposed to be much much cheaper and much
> more flexible since there was talk about putting it in such places as
> ATM machines and the like and creating multiple devices with the
> technology. It was years and years ago and I dearly wish I remembered
> the name of the technology but, I don't think it got enough funding or
> generated enough interest to take off. More's the pity. Someone in
> the medical field, of all places, was behind it.
>
> Alex M
>
> On 10/15/10, Jacob Kruger<Jacob.Kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Target market size...as in they know they won't be selling too many of
them
>> this side in the first place, so they ship less, so it costs more per
unit,
>> etc. Etc.
>>
>> My initial jaws licence I bought through a friend of mine in the USA,
using
>> his name and address, since it cost me around two thirds of what it would
>> have cost me this side, and he just brought the package over to me when
he
>> came to visit his family, and while the local distributors know I handled
it
>> this way, they have never really complained, and quite happily then sold
me
>> my SMA a little while ago, using my same licence number, but they have, I
>> suppose, taken over the distributor status of my specific licence
>> number/package now...
>>
>> Same way, and not related to programming at all, but I think that while
we
>> pay a subsidised price for a cane, they get supplied free to members of
>> groups like the AFB etc. - I might be confused, but anyway...
>>
>> OTOH, at least we can buy different colours of canes...LOL!
>>
>> This also relates to when I bought my KSonar, the nearest distributor to
>> Africa, from Malaysia, wanted literally double what I paid for it, when I
>> bought it directly from the manufacturing company in NZ - they
understood,
>> agreed with me, and they even modified the power plug for the recharge
unit
>> for me before shipping it, but anyway...like said, that doesn't relate to
>> programming, whereas the Braille display can/does.
>> (the other joke is that in Malaysia, VI guys aren't allowed to make use
of
>> credit cards either, so they would have wanted me to go into a bank to do
a
>> foreign exchange funds transfer as well - wonder how their one VI deputy
>> government minister at the time felt about that one...?)
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> jacob.kruger@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos
>> Sent: 15 October 2010 10:22 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: The Cost Of Braille Displays
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I couldn't help but notice a post in which a claim was made that FS can
>> manufacture and ship a 40 cell Braille display for around $400.
>>
>> In South Africa where I live, a new Focus 40 Blue is about the most
>> affordable 40 cell display one can find and it sells for around
>> R 27,000which is about
>> $ 3,857 given a exchange rate of R to $ of 7 to 1.
>>
>> What is going on here?
>>
>> But let's double the initial cost to $ 800 just in case, and somewhere,
>> somehow you still have:
>> $ 3,857 - $ 800
>> = $ 3,057
>> which is 79.25 % of the final cost.
>>
>> What is going on here?
>>
>> The average price however for a 40 cell display is nothing less than
>> R 31,000 which is
>> $ 4,428
>> and the FS Focus 40 Blue is just a really good value item one (in our
>> market of course) i if you can call it such...
>>
>> What is going on here?
>>
>> The system is broken and the system is not benefitting the majority,
>> therefore the system must change.
>> The system can only change if the end users exert pressure.
>>
>> Notice "the system". It's no individual's company as such.
>>
>> What can we do??
>>
>> --
>> Kerneels Roos
>> Cell: +27 (0)82 309 1998
>> Skype: cornelis.roos
>>
>> "Common Sense" is not "Common Practice" .
>>
>> "The Strawberry Jam Law:
>> The wider you spread it, the thinner it gets..."
>> -- from the Java Specialist Newsletter, from a book on consulting.
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