Re: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
- From: Ishe Chinyoka <chinyoka@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:35:49 +0200
This is a great tool indeed. I tried it. Thanks for the update.
I had been using EmEditor which to me seems to be awesome and highly
accessible. EmEditor has got a dif plugin by default such that you can
simply invoke it and in a dialog box see the differences and
similarities. EmEditor as a text editor is accessible and even
extensible as you cannot only add any plugin, but you can write custom
macros using either JavaScript or VBScript as it uses the Windows
Script Host engine internally. For anyone interested in the text
editor, it can be found at http://www.emeditor.com. However, it is not
open source, though the developers did everything to allow for
addition of custom plugins if you can code in C. The plugin
documentation comes with the software. The software comes in
Professional or free edition.
On 7/2/09, R. Haynie <rhaynie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sauro,
>
> Well I noticed the same thing. I have not tried to determine if I can
> change the display of "different" lines. But since I use a screen
> reader that can announce the background and foreground colors at the
> current position of my cursor, I get by with no problems.
>
> Keep in mind as well that WinMerge treats a set of contiguous lines with
> differences as 1 difference. So even though the status line might read
> 5 differences. the actual count of individual lines may be higher than 5.
>
> So what I have been doing was to toggle back to the full view of the
> file, move line by line and check the background and foreground. When
> it changes, then I know I have reached the end of the group of lines
> that made up that particular difference.
>
> But since I know a lot about the code I am merging, once I see the first
> line that starts the difference, I often remember what the difference
> actually is before I read line by line. That is just a bonus in my case.
>
> They may have options available to modify this for us, but I have not
> had the opportunity to check yet.
>
> -Rodney
>
>
> Sauro Cesaretti wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have tried winmerge as well and it's really an interesting software.
>> But unluckly, it seems that it indicates the differences between the two
>> files with colors only.
>> Did you find another way to show the differences?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards, Sauro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. Haynie
>> Sent: mercoledì 1 luglio 2009 15.18
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>>
>> Yes, in my post this morning I said I would be trying to download it again
>> from SourceForge. Well this time SorceForge was up and allowed the
>> download.
>>
>> I will be trying Jamal's edSharp again today. I tried it when he first
>> released it a long while ago, for a quick minute.
>>
>> As far as the file comparison and merge... read on.
>>
>> winmerge can be obtained from:
>> http://winmerge.org/
>>
>> I have to say winmerge is completely awesome and 99% accessible.
>> Awesome help system, great documentation, hotkeys listed, plugins
>> available.
>> This free program was 100% exactly what I needed for the file comparison
>> and
>> merge process. No graphical interfaces that did not allow access.
>> The comparison window allowed keyboard navigation and navigation in so
>> many
>> different ways. I knocked out a couple of my large files I had to do in
>> no
>> time at all. I could compare the files. Show only the differences.
>> Change
>> between the files. Toggle back to showing all lines so I could get a
>> perspective of exactly where the change was in respect to the rest of the
>> file. Merge the difference from left to right, or right to left.
>> Navigate
>> to next difference...
>>
>> All of the above using only keystrokes, and no virtual cursoring. I could
>> even manually edit the files in the editor as I am comparing.
>>
>> I can not express how much this program will increase my productivity over
>> the next couple weeks. So many of the other file comparison programs were
>> only somewhat accessible or not accessible at all.
>> Winmerge is it!
>>
>> This program is so extensible as well. The plugins allow you to do so
>> much
>> more and quite easily. Do you write C code? Well you compare source
>> files,
>> but not compare the commented lines. You can create patch files to give
>> to
>> others... Things as simple as that make winmerge the ultimate utility for
>> me
>> at this time.
>>
>> I hope to find the "perfect" editor as far as accessibility and
>> functionality, focused on my needs, this week. So stay tuned and I'll
>> post
>> some comments on what I came up with. It is good to have a thread about
>> this topic every year or so.
>>
>> -Rodney
>>
>> black ares wrote:
>>
>>> also, there is a utility named winmerge
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James"
>>> <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Sauro,
>>> For my lack of money, Jamal's EdSharp has replaced what I used to say
>>> was the greatest editor on earth. Grab it at
>>> http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe/. Here is a paragraph from
>>> the documentation. Maybe it will help you.
>>>
>>> Two commands produce text in a new window after comparing sets of
>>> lines. Lines above the cursor are considered the first set, and the
>>> rest are considered the second. Use the List Different Items command,
>>> Alt+Shift+L, to get lines that are in the first set but not the
>>> second. Use the Query Common Items command,
>>> Alt+Shift+Q, to get lines that are in both. These commands ignore
>>> blank lines but are case sensitive.
>>>
>>> If that won't help you, maybe there would be a way to run the DOS fc
>>> utility and bring the output into the editor. I think that could be
>>> done with all the facilities at your disposal with EdSharp.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> J
>>> im
>>> ----------
>>> Jim Homme
>>> Usability Services
>>> 412-544-1810
>>> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim
>>> Homme Sr.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. Haynie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:26 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Text Editors and Text Diff/Merge
>>>
>>> Ok, this is something that has troubled me on and off for a while now.
>>>
>>> I am looking for a real good text editor preferably one a integrated
>>> diff (file compare) utility. And it would be great if the diff had a
>>> merge functionality.
>>> I have been using UltraEdit for 6 or so years now. Occasionally the
>>> editor will crash. I could not make a nice reproduceable situation of
>>> when it crashes. The latest version of UE is no different.
>>>
>>> I took another look at Komodo Edit, but versin 5 does not seem to be
>>> any more accessible with JAWS.
>>>
>>> Editor:
>>> I use the editor for writing sql, php, python, csv files, viewing
>>> logs, etc. I like code folding and function lists to quickly move
>>> around in longer files.
>>>
>>> So I need sort of an Accessible Power Text Editor. I would not mind
>>> paying for it, but it shouldn't crash on me like UE doing on both of
>>> my boxes.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll be doing file comparisons and merging of changes over the next
>>> few weeks. Other than that, I probably compare files once a month. I
>>> am going to try out WinMerge, but Tuesday SourceForge would not allow
>>> any downloads of that package (500 error), so I'll try Wednesday. If
>>> that package is accessible, ten I the file compare be satisfied
>>>
>>>
>>> Sina had a couple ideas, but he also suggested to hit the list up with
>>> the question.
>>>
>>> -Rodney
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