Re: Team Excellence Award Winner

Who "ourselves"?
I guess you are not talking about the worldwide community of the blind.

I can read about "rehab" or other things like that on this list, but in some countries like mine, there are no rehabilitation centers that can really help a blind person, and where the employment rate is 10 times lower than in countries like USA.

I live in a pretty big city where there could be found more work places for the blind than in other localities, but the employment rate of the blind is around 3%, where most of the blind persons work in massage, and some of them as teachers in the local high school for the blind. Very few other jobs for the blind are available here.

And the country-wide employment rate could be even lower than the one in my city.

So we don't have the same position when we talk about the possibility of success for a blind person.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Team Excellence Award Winner


Hi Dennis,

Thank you very much for your comment.

I hope that your example acts as a wake-up call for those of us that are
sitting around feeling sorry for ourselves. It certainly works for me.

Thanks again,
Jim
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Everything is easy when you know how."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Team Excellence Award Winner


As a blind programmer that lost my eyesight, both arms below the elbows,
total hearing loss in left, 80% hearing loss in right, and most of the lower
half of my face in a demolition accident in the Army in 1984, and as the
founder of the BlindProgramming.com web site, and list serve, and the JAWS
Scripts list, I take issue with the statements that you made.
So what if it takes me a bit longer to do what sighted people can do? Rehab
is not an elevator to the top, but rather a stepping stone on the path to
success, and every step I accomplish--with or without assistance--is still a
step to success, no matter how you look at it.
This list was founded to assist blind want-to-be developers in achieving a
step to success, and if I can do it, then anyone--especially a vanilla blind (someone with just blindness), which is the majority of the blind community,
can certainly do so.
OK, so it took me 7 years to get a 4 year degree, but I got the degree, and
that was the goal I set out to do.
If you measure individual success according to how it compares to someone
else's success, then you're using the wrong yardstick.

Thanks,
Dennis Brown

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