Hi Dennis, Thank you very much for your comment. I hope that your example acts as a wake-up call for those of us that are sitting around feeling sorry for ourselves. It certainly works for me. Thanks again, Jim jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Everything is easy when you know how." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Team Excellence Award Winner As a blind programmer that lost my eyesight, both arms below the elbows, total hearing loss in left, 80% hearing loss in right, and most of the lower half of my face in a demolition accident in the Army in 1984, and as the founder of the BlindProgramming.com web site, and list serve, and the JAWS Scripts list, I take issue with the statements that you made. So what if it takes me a bit longer to do what sighted people can do? Rehab is not an elevator to the top, but rather a stepping stone on the path to success, and every step I accomplish--with or without assistance--is still a step to success, no matter how you look at it. This list was founded to assist blind want-to-be developers in achieving a step to success, and if I can do it, then anyone--especially a vanilla blind (someone with just blindness), which is the majority of the blind community, can certainly do so. OK, so it took me 7 years to get a 4 year degree, but I got the degree, and that was the goal I set out to do. If you measure individual success according to how it compares to someone else's success, then you're using the wrong yardstick. Thanks, Dennis Brown __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind