Re: Sonified Debugger vs. Screenreader Question
- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:03:02 -0600
A couple of things to consider. You may also want to consider downloading
and installing the Jaws scripts available at Inthanes site for Visual Studio
2005. You may also want to consider that there is a newer version of Visual
Studio now available and you might be better served to develop this for the
latest version of the program.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: Sonified Debugger vs. Screenreader Question
Hi folks,
My research lab is in the process of setting up some experiments
comparing my sonified debugger (Technically it's a sonified omniscient
debugger), with the debugger in Visual Studio using Jaws 8.0. I've
developed a speech based interface that "I hope" will make it easier
to program for the blind community. I know I've said this before, but
my tool is a research prototype, not something you can download, but
nonetheless I hope it will lead folks in the right direction. Anyway,
my lab and I want this test to be as fair as possible, so I was hoping
to ask a few questions of the community about how we should have
everything setup.
Basically what we are doing is:
Download Jaws and Visual Studio.NET 2005, and copy the way it allows
you to navigate and the sounds Jaws outputs into our custom program.
Then, after our usability testing is complete, we compare the way
we've come up with experimentally to the current "State of the art" in
screenreader technology.
Here are my questions:
1. In Visual Studio, the only way I can find to navigate from the
editor window, where I type source code, to the watch window, where
variables are displayed, is by holding CTRL + TAB and using the arrows
to navigate to that window. For anyone that uses the Visual Studio
debugger, is this how they navigate, or is another technique more
common?
2. If I am in the editor window, where I am modifying source code, and
I want to determine the "value" of a variable in the debugger, is
there any way to do that using Visual Studio and Jaws without
navigating to the watch window? How do folks usually determine the
current value of a variable in a debugger?
3. I've heard some about Jaws scripting, but I'm not completely
familiar with what folks use it for in the context of programming. How
does Jaws scripting play into this and would or should its use have an
effect on our experiment in some way?
4. When we do our final analysis of the navigation, sounds, etc, that
Jaws and Visual studio uses, we want the setup for our environment to
be as close to realistic as possible. Are there any settings in either
Visual Studio or Jaws that we should be adjusting before doing our
analysis?
Thanks for any help you can provide!
Andreas
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Hi folks, My research lab is in the process of setting up some experiments comparing my sonified debugger (Technically it's a sonified omniscient debugger), with the debugger in Visual Studio using Jaws 8.0. I've developed a speech based interface that "I hope" will make it easier to program for the blind community. I know I've said this before, but my tool is a research prototype, not something you can download, but nonetheless I hope it will lead folks in the right direction. Anyway, my lab and I want this test to be as fair as possible, so I was hoping to ask a few questions of the community about how we should have everything setup. Basically what we are doing is: Download Jaws and Visual Studio.NET 2005, and copy the way it allows you to navigate and the sounds Jaws outputs into our custom program. Then, after our usability testing is complete, we compare the way we've come up with experimentally to the current "State of the art" in screenreader technology. Here are my questions: 1. In Visual Studio, the only way I can find to navigate from the editor window, where I type source code, to the watch window, where variables are displayed, is by holding CTRL + TAB and using the arrows to navigate to that window. For anyone that uses the Visual Studio debugger, is this how they navigate, or is another technique more common? 2. If I am in the editor window, where I am modifying source code, and I want to determine the "value" of a variable in the debugger, is there any way to do that using Visual Studio and Jaws without navigating to the watch window? How do folks usually determine the current value of a variable in a debugger? 3. I've heard some about Jaws scripting, but I'm not completely familiar with what folks use it for in the context of programming. How does Jaws scripting play into this and would or should its use have an effect on our experiment in some way? 4. When we do our final analysis of the navigation, sounds, etc, that Jaws and Visual studio uses, we want the setup for our environment to be as close to realistic as possible. Are there any settings in either Visual Studio or Jaws that we should be adjusting before doing our analysis? Thanks for any help you can provide! Andreas __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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