Re: Sodbeans update
- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:54:59 -0700
can you change installers? if so folks out here should be able to guide you to
ones that are accessible, I know one is called inno
I can take a look through some files for other names if you would like, but
someone out here should have them.
take care
inthane
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Agemtree
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----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Stefik
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Sodbeans update
Thanks, Elf, I appreciate it. It's definitely a huge amount of working trying
to make an application as complex as a development environment accessible.
And of course, we have spent eons of time getting our custom virtual machine
and the GUI to be accessible, yet then we run into these weird issues with
things like the installer, which makes it hard, which we don't have much
control over, but this makes it difficult for folks to even download and test
it! It is both a frustrating, fun, and complicated project, to be sure. And
we've made massive progress lately, which is nice.
Stefik
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:16 PM, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
afraid I can't assist you in this, but I did want to thank you for your
continued efforts in making applications accessible for those of us who need
them, smile
good luck!
inthaneelf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Agemtree
"merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones"
www.agemtree.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Stefik
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
sodbeans-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Sodbeans update
Hello everyone,
I wanted to send an update to the blind mailing list and sodbeans lists
to let everyone know where the sodbeans project, the project to substantially
overhaul accessibility in the NetBeans environment, is at. First, there are
currently 2 active team members and one new one was just added, as southern
illinois university edwardsville has hired a graduate student to work on the
project for a half time research appointment. This is excellent news, as the
more person power we have right now the better.
Second, as part of an independent study, a student at Central Washington
University has been hard at work on the guts of the virtual machine (and so
have I). We have made major progress on both the design of the programming
language, the implementation, and the integration of both into NetBeans. A
large number of op-codes in our custom virtual machine are complete and we are
working hard to complete the rest of the codes in our current design.
Third, as of today, I have completed the auditory mapping utilities
between VM op-codes and sound. Basically, this is the functionality that allows
high quality audio to be output when you step over, or back, in a piece of
executing code. In other words, our debugger is finally learning to talk rather
eloquently about what your code is doing.
Finally, we have made a ton of progress and will probably have the most
important, and major, parts of our virtual machine and sound libraries up and
running within a few months, although there are some pieces for which we could
use some more person power. By far the most helpful contribution we could use
right now would be for someone to work on an open-source JNI wrapper for
VoiceOver on macintosh. If anyone has some experience with mac programming and
wants to contribute; get in touch.
Anyway, I hope everyone in the community is doing well,
Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science
Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
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